Atlas On Floyd vs Garcia

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  1. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    anyone that wouldn't start off as a 9-1 under dog
     
  2. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    all excellent points
     
  3. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Move up where? Floyd had to eat the morning of the weigh in to just make 150. How is he gonna go to 160 when he cant even make 154?
     
  4. HitBattousai

    HitBattousai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The same way he always does. Floyd isn't going to win at 160 with size regardless, but with his speed and skill, just like at 154. And both GGG and Martinez have stated that they'd be willing to come down to 154 for the fight anyway if Floyd didn't want to go for a Middleweight belt. But since Floyd isn't about legacy, just about money, it's not going to happen in any case.
     
  5. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Of course they'd be willingly to come down to fight because of the money that is there. But honetly beating GGG at 54 does nothing for his legacy because GGG has done nothing of note. The only thing that would add to FLoyd's legacy as far as GGG is concerned is a MW title and thats way out of range for floyd.

    Martinez at 54 i could see but his status is up in the air.

    And if these guys beat him because of size then what does it do you them?
     
  6. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Floyd is naturally larger than garcia-who possesses nothing to bother Floyd, and Pac, from whom Floyd ran full speed from. At heart. MAyweather is a chicken.
     
  7. Stylez G.

    Stylez G. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Name someone. Name a better fight he could've made instead of Guerrero.
     
  8. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    why so you can come up with an EXCUSE why it wasnt possible at the time? no thanks

    he had a year off in between fights and the best he could come up with is robert guererro?? :lol:
     
  9. Stylez G.

    Stylez G. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well if Guerrero was such a laughable opponent, then you should have no problem naming a better one.
     
  10. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    9-1 is laughable. a "welterweight" with love handles.

    no thanks, you win. its clear the ghost was the killer at the time he slayed...he was the margarito/pacman all in one....
     
  11. Stylez G.

    Stylez G. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    C'mon, I'm sure you see yourself as an astute fan. You seem to have no problem ripping fighters and their choice of opposition. Surely you can name me one better alternative.
     
  12. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Garcia was almost beaten by a shot to bits Morales way past his weight, why is this even in discussion.

    He has not looked impressive in any fights. He was being outboxed like hell before he knocked out Amir Khan, he has power in that left hook but give him 1000 rounds with Floyd and he will be lucky to land it once.

    Garcia is a smaller Margarito with a left hook, I dont see anything there. Any of the elite 140-147 would beat him, that is Broner, Bradley, JMM, Cotto, Floyd, Pac, EASY.

    IMO right now, Floyd is unbeatable. Really the only 2 people who has a chance is Martinez and Pac and I think he would win both. Martinez has a chance because of his power and size. Pac still has a chance because of his unorthodox, southpaw, speed and power.
     
  13. Stylez G.

    Stylez G. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not even close. They have two completely different styles.
     
  14. HitBattousai

    HitBattousai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Again, why is Middleweight way out of range for Floyd? He's the man at 154 lbs despite his size disadvantage. He dominated one belt holder and clearly beat the other in a quasi-competitive affair. It seems to me that there's no way to know if the size really will matter until Floyd gets in the ring at the weight. For a guy that proclaims himself the best, Floyd doesn't exactly push himself to prove it. This is a move in that direction against a good, but beatable fighter in GGG.

    As to fighting them at 154, it wouldn't be a great legacy boost, but at least Floyd could say that he fought them in some capacity, and Martinez or GGG still represent a significantly greater threat than Garcia. As mentioned before, Garcia is a very good fighter at 140, but is unproven at 147 and literally brings nothing to the table that Floyd doesn't outclass him in, except maybe heart.

    And in the unlikely event that Floyd did move up and lost to Martinez or GGG, at least he tried to push himself somewhat. The haters would certainly come out in full force to deride his first defeat, but from an overall perspective I think Floyd would actually gain more respect for making a move more based on legacy than money. But we all know it won't happen.
     
  15. Str8ryte

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    Ive not seen one person ever say jmm was bigger and if they did they were ****in ******ed. I have to find one of those posts.