"Attaboy rounds" - a common fallacy in scoring boxing matches RBR.

I've stated the case for the Mayweather shutout many times - starting on the night of, then in this later thread where I stuck by the impression from memory of that first viewing: https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/rewatching-canelo-mayweather-again.488426/

...and then a few years later I actually did sit down and review it, very carefully, scoring it RBR once again.

https://www.boxingforum24.com/threa...d-replay-on-showtime-extreme-10pm-est.565108/

I explained in detail, both in the RBR thread and the re-watch thread, why Mayweather took all twelve.

 

I'm not wrong though. Sorry if that goes against people's "fake humility is a virtue" sensibilities but too bad. You don't see Michael Jordan saying "I wasn't the dominant basketball player of my era".

I am exceptionally qualified to score boxing matches, to such an extent that my opinion is worth more than most professional judges' or television pundits', and I'm not afraid of saying that or how it might come off as sounding "arrogant".

...plus, a fair number of people would probably agree with me. I've lost count of how many people have told me I ought to be a boxing judge, and for the record that includes at least one professional boxing judge (my good friend and former coworker Martha Tremblay).

 

That's funny, just saw that I literally called out CST80 for giving Canelo attaboy rounds in that very thread.

 

I'm pissed. Everybody for years has been telling me I was harsh on Canelo versus Mayweather, that he "surely nicked a couple of rounds", and that I am in the minority (and therefore apparently implied to be "wrong") opinion that it was a shutout for PBF. Guess what? I've always challenged people to present a case for SPECIFIC rounds that were ironclad for Canelo. To date nobody has. I even sat down and rewatched and rescored the whole damn thing with the fresh perspective of a few years' passage of time - and reached the same exact score, providing a brand new supplemental detailed commentary on the action to buttress the one in my original RBR thread.

Not one person besides CST80 stepped up to the plate to duke it out with me on the open field of debate when I made that thread l last year. Granted, I kicked his ass in that debate (though I'm sure he feels otherwise We are titans in this realm, towering above the rest of you puny mortals. We can fight epic battles on opposite sides and still agree to disagree and maintain our kinship based on our relative superiority to the rabble.) but props to him for trying.

Not one person else. Disappointing.

Not one person could mount a case for Canelo having so much as one ironclad round, let alone "a few", using my own RBR posts detailing the action in the disputed rounds as reference to provide counterarguments for why each round in question should have gone Canelo's way using well thought out analysis.

Mayweather haters, NONE of you happened to see that thread while it was in circulation?

Canelo nuthuggers, NONE of you happened to see that thread while it was in circulation?

Mayweather nuthuggers (another group that by and large - somewhat surprisingly, at least on the surface - insists Canelo bagged a couple of rounds, but mainly because they want Canelo to seem a beast in hindsight to boost Mayweather. Everything is about agenda and circles back to vicarious intentional over- and underrating to serve those agendas, with all the goddamn rabble on here. ), NONE of you happened to see that thread while it was in circulation?


All y'all punk ass bitches been ducking me for years, ducked me when I made that thread, still ducking me now.

 

Yes & yes!!

 

^^^ regarding Mayweather vs. Canelo, this is another huge fallacy in scoring besides "attaboy rounds" and often going in conjunction with it - the idea that if one guy on the receiving end of a boxing clinic made some rounds comparatively more competitive, that you "have to" swing a few rounds his way to be "fair" or whatever. NO! If the other guy schools him badly in some rounds, and takes some others closer but still clear, guess what? The points distribution is still the same. 10-9 for the guy doing the schooling. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO AWARD A SINGLE ROUND TO THE LOSER OF A FIGHT WITH A LOT OF CLOSE ROUNDS (IF HE DOESN'T HAPPEN TO HAVE THOROUGHLY DESERVED ANY PARTICULAR ROUND, WHEN VIEWED IN A VACUUM). THAT IS A STUPID, STUPID, STUPID, STUPID, STUPID, STUPID, STUPID, STUPID, STUPID, STUPID, STUPID FALLACY. BOXING HAS NO "PARTICIPATION TROPHY" CLAUSE IN ITS SCORING CRITERIA. YOU CAN VERBALLY GET CREDIT FOR PUTTING UP A GOOD FIGHT IN A FEW ROUNDS WHILE SUFFERING A MASTERCLASS TO YOUR DETRIMENT, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN ANYONE IS BEHOLDEN TO PICK A ROUND AT RANDOM TO SLIDE YOU TEN POINTS UNDER THE TABLE AS A CONSOLATION PRIZE.