Attention Margarito defense attorneys. Here is your argument

Pay no attention to him for a minute freddy, read my post and answer the question please.

 

i did, dont worry he's just like a tic on my balls....one scratch and he'll go away for a minute

 

shane also said he felt the pad and it didnt feel hard so should we take his word for it or discount it because it doesnt fit our argument. lets deal with the facts and stop going by what conveniently fits our agenda.
my problem with this whole thing is that margo was publicly accused of placing plaster in his gloves and so far the evidence has not proven that in fact it was plaster. the only reason the prosecution would say that they found trace elements is because they are unable to conclusively say that in fact it was plaster. to convict a fighter in the court of public oppinion without the required evidence is plain bull**** in this case or any other like it. if you are here to say that those elements could only come from the presence of plaster and could not come from any other natural sources then prove it. dont rely on what you think to make your argument but go with what you know to prove it.

 

No, i dont agree actually. How can you agree that a 1 year ban is warranted but then say it makes sense to fight it? It makes you a complete hypocrite...furthermore there is nothing to fight. Premade knuckle pads were inserted into the wraps, which alone warrants a 1 year ban, mistake or not you are held accountable for your actions. That is what he is being suspended for. The traces of the elements only fueled the possibility that there wa sintent to cheat. If it could be proven further, im sure there would have been a lifetime ban.

 

You can get all legal smegal about it and look to exploit any possible loophole you can find. It doesnt matter. If he was banned for life with the evidence they have, I would absolutely say ya, **** that, there isnt enough proof that he used plaster YET. However, a 1 year ban is perfectly warranted and Im glad you finally agree with that.

 

no, it's not hypocritical of me....why, because since the jump i never agreed with the way things were done....i'm not sure if you know this or not, but did you know they didnt even give them a chance to fight their case....mainly bacause they didnt know that the **** they were getting accused of....nazim took the evidence into his own hands, let people mess with them, shipped them off etc etc...all while capetillo and margo were thinking the problem was "the way they were wrapped".....so if you can honestly hell me shady **** dont go on with the csac, then you're one blind man....

 

So agreeing he should be banned for 1 year due to having premade knucklepads inserted into his wraps but at the same timing say it should be fought isnt hypocritical?...Come on Freddy, you're better than this baby, you arent even making sense now. Despite how it was handled or what traces are on the pads...bottom line, they were premade knucklepads, against the rules and automatically warrants a 1 year suspension. You already agreed to that. No matter how the case was handled...the knucklepads were put in there..what the csac did, nazim whoever else you wanna point a finger at does not matter. He is not being suspended for having plaster in his gloves. If he was, it would be a lifetime ban and not a 1 year. There is no debating this, these are the facts.

 

They didnt know what they were being accused of...how naive can you be? If they didnt know what they were being accused of how did capetillo know he "accidentally" grabbed the wrong pads? As to give the impression that it was ok to use any pad that was premade...and which pad was he meaning to grab? the premade one without "hand cream" on it?

 

i never said margo should be banned, his trainer yes...especially when he took all the blame...now you answer me this, how do you feel about that, i mean you have someone to point the finger at, but instead you point it at the fighter.....

 

No problem, because first and foremost, the fighter is resposnible for his team and the actions of his team. he is th eone who hires them and makes the decisions. So Margarito needs to be held just as accountable. Secondly, I dont believe for one second that Margarito didnt know what was being put into his wraps. Hes been a professional fighter for way too long to be that ignorant about how his hands are being wrapped. If you wanna choose to believe he didnt know thats fine. But he is still responsible for his team, and since it was a member of his team, his wraps, his fight...he as well should be banned for the 1 year.

Do you agree with that?

 

**** no....
man bro, me and you are two totally different types of men....it's like people in here when i found that pedophile mutha****er on here...everybody still kept defending him, does that make them pedo's.....i ****en sure as hell hope not.....and not that it anything to do with this (well it did, the hate these men have for margo led them to defend a pedo) but i'm using it as an example because it happened right here in front of our eyes in the other margarito thread.......


now, margo is in fact the head of his camp as far as money goes, but his trainer is the main man, and everybody knows that....like when roger mayweather entered the ring against zab, how come they didnt ban floyd...not that i would've agreed with that, but it's the same ****.....


every man for himself homie, that's how i think.....especially in the fight game when the fighter is the one putting his life on the line, not the trainer

 

Man you're the one who's in denial...I backed my arguement with facts...not opinions (like yourself)

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2009/01/officials-found.html

I dare you to prove this article wrong...I dont want to hear your opinion on it...Give me facts to make me shut my mouth..Until then, dont give me BS about how I'm not proving my claims..Since you want to get techinal with it...Provide a well planned rebuttal with factual information instead of your opinion...Smart guy, you should know that OPINIONS NEVER OUT WEIGHTS FACTS...NEVER!!:good.

I'll say it again...Margorito is a cheat and I'll stick by that statement!

 

i agree that it is margos job as a professional to know that all the rules are being followed and that was the first thing i posted when this first broke out. i can also see how he could have overlooked the fact that an old pad was being used instead of a new one which looks identical.

 

especially when it looked like a regular pad....have you seen the pic.

 

Ha, I dont think different types of men is the right phrase to use, just different opinions. I disagree about Margarito only being in charge of the money. He is in charge of hiring his team, firing his team etc etc. If someone on his team is putting illegal pre made knucklepads (with or without plaster) into his wraps, somehow without him knowing, he is absolutely responsible for it. Just the same as a parent is held resposible for the actions of minors. When I was 12 i broke out the front of a store window, my parents got sued and had to pay for it....you can use all kinds of examples that can go for or against your particular argument. As far as Floyd goes, technically he should have been at least fined...its really based on the infraction. In this case, a possible intent to cheat occured, with Margarito being present and it being done on his own hands.