Attention Margarito defense attorneys. Here is your argument

You really are losing me here.You talk about the initial reason for the wraps to come off.

But then you go into a rut about when the tape is wet and then dry it will harden when there would be no way for a sweaty fighters glove to dry.

The thing about the extra tape that would get hard is if they layered the tape then gauze tape then gauze forming a hard cast while the gauze would absorb the glue from the tape otherwise theres no merit to what you say.

Plaster of paris clearly has a distinct chemical makeup CaSO4·0.5H2O.

Which any scientist worth his weight in water should know.

Like you said any other form of plaster or gypsum would not help simply crumble.

You should also mention all the common things that contain sulphur and calcium

sweat and epsom salt both contain sulphur

Calcium is powder or basically any chalky substance.

While antifungal cream carries both.

Calcium sulfate hemihydrate is found nowhere

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the poll would be worthless as more than 50% of esb is kids that dont know what they are talking about (watch out for that rock) or parrots that are unable to think for themselves.

 

i suppose we'll have to agree to see this one differently because the things you are saying are categorically, chemically untrue...in my decade plus of working in emergency room labs, organic and chemical toxicology labs, exercise science labs and athletic training facilities the scientific basis for almost everything you are saying is simply not there.

might i suggest you look at vogel's textbook of practical organic chemistry (fourth or fifth edition) and, perhaps, march's advanced organic chemistry and then get back to me. i am not going to argue with you because you are saying things that are simply technically innaccurate both about boxing and chemical composition of matter and the interaction of solid and liquid substances. the evidence you are producing leads me to believe you are either a college kid arrogant about passing o-chem 070 or someone married to a lab technician who has no ability to understand the academic boundaries of what they shouted to their husband or wife from another room in the house.

 

antifungal creams do not carry sulfur in a form that could be mistaken for the same ionized sulfur compounds contained in any type of plaster. the type of sulfur contained in antifungal creams...the type contained in antifungal creams is either amorphous sulfur which is cooled quickly and not soluble in cs2 or precipitated sulfur which is washed with hcl and derived from polysulfide.

the kind of sulfur contained in plaster byproducts is either slated sulfur or rubbermaker's sulfur...both have low acid, moisture and ash contents...so misidentification in this way would be, again, chemically impossible.

so, literally, what you are suggesting means there was either an error in the lab that made the identifications you suggest or you have managed to rewrite the laws of chemical science.

now, did you actually go to school in any related subject area...or are you just giving me a very primitive and self-rightious wikipedia run around? it's just not going to wash when someone actually fully understands the terminology, which you clearly do not.

i sincerely hope you do not have any kind of degree or certification in organic chemistry and, if so, you are a serious risk to the integrity of your employer. in all seriousness, if you work in a hospital you are, quite literally, a public health risk in the most volatile way...i hope you are an arrogant college kid.

in addition to having such an inefficient sense of chemical bonding procedures...you very clearly have never competed in boxing, come on, i know i'm right about that...nobody who has ever laced up a pair of gloves would know so little about how hands are to be wrapped.

 

I call bull****, I dont think any of you have a degree in Chem to prove that these elements can not be found in anti fungal cream get ****ing real I posted a link in another thread that proves that these two are found in anti fungal cream.

I aint saying that maragarito used hand cream or anti fungal cream what I am saying here is that you guys can not prove that he didnt.

 

No college degree just a regular joe.But all you are doing is trying to use words and big sentences for the oohs and ahhs.

Instead of trying to say what I said is untrue point it out. don't tell me to go and read a book when I work with mortars and plaster so therefore know the substances quite well.

There is clearly a difference between gypsum and plaster of paris.

As far as different sulfurs of course there are but I've never heard anything else but a broad term of sulfur and calcium which you should know can be found anywhere.

 

yep this dude thinks he's ****in Einstein

 

would you like me to fax a copy of my diploma to you? i think you'd probably just be embarassed...despite the fact that i never once mentioned that i do possess a degree in ogranic chemistry from the university of washington...in fact i don't think anyone listed their academic credentials. you just kind of assumed that. in addition, if you actually verified any of the facts in question with a textbook, peer reviewed journals or representative experiments in a lab, it would be very clear that what i am saying is true. since it's not an opinion, it's just the verifiable law of chemical and physical science. just because you might not have that training does not make it unlikely that anyone else does. is it so hard to believe that someone who works in a medical or scientific fields might have competed, at one time in boxing and maintained a deep affection for the sport?

 

the only reason you don't understand the big words and sentences is that you don't have the professional and academic experience to understand why what you are saying is untrue. i usually don't question my neighbor about points of fact regarding eastern european history because he is a professor of eastern european history and i am not. however, if i thought he was wrong, i would actually consult other experts, texts, peer reviewed journals and other source material instead of simply telling him he was wrong and offering completely innacurrate suppositions as a counter. i am not saying you are an idiot...you simply are not correct about these particular issues because you don't have the training to make such determinations. if an issue related directly to your personal areas of expertise, i am very sure you would know a hell of a lot more than i do and i wouldn't have much to say.

 

sweetscientist - basically what you are saying is, theres no way, professionals in the department of justice lab could get the two different types of sulfur wrong correct?

They wouldnt just state sulfur if they weren't sure which type it was?

 

Will your degree come along with a current Copy of your DL?

 

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So basically what you are saying is that if I take Nazims story of what happened into consideration as possibly being true...I should accept the fact that boxing is shady?....not really sure where you are going with this. Someone asked for the interview, I posted it. But I would pu tmore stock into what Nazim says about it as opposed to Margarito or anyone on his team who has clearly been full of **** so far, even to the tune of having conflicting stories.

 

Well Mosleys story is a bit different from Nazims story as well so what do you make of that?:think

 

Jeezus. I had no idea. No offence was intended to Mr. Rubio or his fans. You could see though how one with no idea, seeing him in the ring under the lights, could make that wrong assumption?

But gotta' love ESB, still learn new **** all the time, even something like this. thanks Freddy, atleast I won't say that stupid **** ever again.