Audie Murphy quote that I think applies to classic boxing

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  1. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Exactly. I agree. Real fights and experience really help improve a fighter.

    The guys he chose to blast were ridiculous, though.

    What, the 30 years of training and the 395 amateur and pro fights Gennady Golovkin had weren't "enough" for this guy?

    Give me a break.
     
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  2. gollumsluvslave

    gollumsluvslave Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hear! Hear!

    Great post!
     
  3. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    It's reported in the UK.

    I googled Ohio and the first two results where about this.
     
  4. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Pus the so called amateur fighters they fought were the top amateur fighters in the world Most of Canelos early opponents were taxi drivers taco sellers. Class told when Canelo met Bivol. Ginger was out of his depth hardly won a round yet the judges made it a close fight even they couldn't stretch believability to award him a draw & a win like they did against GGG. That was absolute robbery
     
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  5. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It's really a shame because it's not fair to the fighters nor the fans. We could have some ATGs in this era but instead we are seeing incomplete fighters whose potentials are not fulfilled. In general these fighters are missing the sublime skills of the past ATGs, the minute differences, the subtle moves, the quick crafty mind, the intangibles.

    The films of past ATGs are there for everyone to see. Whether it looks like genius or crap or anything in between, is up to the individual.

    BTW I gotta mention that the old time films and even stuff as recently as the 70's do a disservice to those great old fighters. It would be MUCH more impressive to the eye with the tech today.
     
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  6. Pat M

    Pat M Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Some people don't understand how pro boxing works. Almost any person, with little/no boxing experience who trains hard for a few months, is willing to spar some and learn a little, and has $150,000 to spend can get to 15-20 wins with no losses in the pros. Take that same person into local/regional "Open Amateur" competition and there is a good chance that he won't win any of his 15-20 fights. Take that same person into world class amateur competition and he'll not only lose, he'll probably get hurt.

    In the pros, a fighter can pick his opponent, he pays for the opponent's travel, expenses, and bout pay, he usually pays the promoter a "slot fee" to put the fight on his show and he can fight as weak an opponent as the commission will allow. By the time the guy reaches 10 or so wins, he might have to look for states with weak commissions, but a man can "win" as long as he fights the right opponents.

    I heard a guy, after winning a competitive state Golden Gloves Novice fight tell his coach that he wanted to turn pro because he was tired of tough fights. He said he wanted some soft opponents.
     
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  7. Journeyman92

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    Pro fights- guys need more pro fights.
     
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  8. Journeyman92

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    I’m being extreme for extreme reactions but honestly yes. Amateur fights just don’t mean as much as pro fighting none of those guys reached there potential because of the way boxing is today.
     
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  9. Journeyman92

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    I am being extreme and semi trolling yeah, but honestly I don’t believe those guys would be much in other eras if you took them as they were.
     
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  10. FrankinDallas

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    Murphy accomplished deeds in WWII that beggar description and belief. I'll post just a few of them below. Worth a read:

    Murphy participated in the September 1943 mainland Salerno landing at Battipaglia.[36] While on a scouting party along the Volturno River, he and two other soldiers were ambushed; German machine gun fire killed one soldier. Murphy and the other survivor responded by killing five Germans with hand grenades and machine gun fire.[37] While taking part in the October Allied assault on the Volturno Line,[36][38] near Mignano Monte Lungo Hill 193, he and his company repelled an attack by seven German soldiers, killing three and taking four prisoner.[39] Murphy was promoted to sergeant on 13 December.[40]

    Taking shelter from the weather in an abandoned farmhouse on 2 March, Murphy and his platoon killed the crew of a passing German tank.[46] He then crawled out alone close enough to destroy the tank with rifle grenades, for which he received the Bronze Star with "V" device.[47][48]

    During the first wave of the Allied invasion of southern France, Murphy received the Distinguished Service Cross[53][54] for action taken on 15 August 1944.[55] After landing on Yellow Beach near Ramatuelle,[56] Murphy's platoon was making its way through a vineyard when the men were attacked by German soldiers. He retrieved a machine gun that had been detached from the squad and returned fire at the German soldiers, killing two and wounding one.[56] Two Germans exited a house about 100 yards (91 m) away and appeared to surrender; when Murphy's best friend responded, they shot and killed him. Murphy advanced alone on the house under direct fire. He killed six, wounded two and took 11 prisoner.[56]

    Murphy's first Purple Heart was for a heel wound received in a mortar shell blast on 15 September 1944 in northeastern France.[59][60][61] His first Silver Star came after he killed four and wounded three at a German machine gun position on 2 October at L'Omet quarry in the Cleurie valley.[53] Three days later, Murphy crawled alone towards the Germans at L'Omet, carrying an SCR-536 radio and directing his men for an hour while the Germans fired directly at him. When his men finally took the hill, 15 Germans had been killed and 35 wounded. Murphy's actions earned him a Bronze Oak Leaf Cluster for his Silver Star.[62] He was awarded a battlefield commission to second lieutenant on 14 October, which elevated him to platoon leader.[63] While en route to Brouvelieures on 26 October, the 3rd Platoon of Company B was attacked by a German sniper group. Murphy captured two before being shot in the hip by a sniper; he returned fire and shot the sniper between the eyes. At the 3rd General Hospital at Aix-en-Provence,[64] the removal of gangrene from the wound caused partial loss of his hip muscle and kept him out of combat until January.[53] Murphy received his first Bronze Oak Leaf Cluster for his Purple Heart for this injury.[65][66]
     
  11. FrankinDallas

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    PART II

    The Colmar Pocket, 850 square miles (2,200 km2) in the Vosges Mountains, had been held by German troops since November 1944.[67] On 14 January 1945, Murphy rejoined his platoon, which had been moved to the Colmar area in December.[68] He moved with the 3rd Division on 24 January to the town of Holtzwihr, where they faced a strong German counterattack.[69] He was wounded in both legs, for which he received a second Bronze Oak Leaf Cluster for his Purple Heart.[70] As the company awaited reinforcements on 26 January, he was made commander of Company B.[71]

    The Germans scored a direct hit on an M10 tank destroyer, setting it alight, forcing the crew to abandon it.[72] Murphy ordered his men to retreat to positions in the woods, remaining alone at his post, shooting his M1 carbine and directing artillery fire via his field radio while the Germans aimed fire directly at his position.[73] Murphy mounted the abandoned, burning tank destroyer and began firing its .50 caliber machine gun at the advancing Germans, killing a squad crawling through a ditch towards him.[74] For an hour, Murphy stood on the flaming tank destroyer returning German fire from foot soldiers and advancing tanks, killing or wounding 50 Germans. He sustained a leg wound during his stand, and stopped only after he ran out of ammunition. Murphy rejoined his men, disregarding his own injury, and led them back to repel the Germans. He insisted on remaining with his men while his wounds were treated.[72]

    For his actions that day, he was awarded the Medal of Honor.[75] The 3rd Infantry Division was awarded the Presidential Unit Citation for its actions at the Colmar Pocket, giving Murphy a Bronze Oak Leaf Cluster for the emblem.[76]
     
  12. kirk

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    How many cruiserweights do you rate above Usyk?
     
  13. Journeyman92

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    I don’t watch guys like Usyk period- he belongs in the amateurs. Guys his own size like Joe Louis are ten times the boxer.
     
  14. kirk

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    Interesting.

    So Usyk belongs in the amatures.

    Why?

    And can you name 10 fighters his size you think would beat him?
     
  15. Austinboxing

    Austinboxing British Boxing fan Full Member

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    So you think GGG, Canelo, Bivol and Usyk are bad? Look I know you prefer old fighters but why do you enjoy just hating on any modern fighter you can? They are all great fighters and very enjoyable to watch.