Audleys tactics were spot on

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  1. Akxtinguish

    Akxtinguish Belt holder Full Member

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    Ok, so it didn't quite work, but the only way he was going to win the fight would be to take Haye into the late rounds, where he hasn't been too often, and go for the money shot sometime during the championship rounds.

    At the end of the day, Haye has been very cautious at heavyweight and Audelys best bet was to wait for an opening.

    He was never going to outslug Haye, and didn't look like he had it in him to outbox him either.

    Sure, nobody likes watching this kind of a fight, and the end result makes it look all the more embarassing, but you can't condemn someone for using the best plan available.

    I hope a Klitschko fight finally gets signed.
     
  2. Coldhearted

    Coldhearted Active Member Full Member

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    How do you expect to take Haye into the late rounds if you're not gonna throw a punch??His strategy may have been correct but the implementation was appalling if any.

    If you are looking to tire out your opponent you at least need to jab away and keep him at bay avoid his shots etc that is the normal way to take someone into the late rounds not by standing in front of him and admiring his face.

    Audley was a disgrace and was exposed no excuse or justification can convince me otherwise. In my opinion there were 2 plans in this fight for Audley, one which was supposed to happen (take Haye into later rounds) and one which Audley had (ummmm.do nothing?)
     
  3. Claypole

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    The idea of taking Haye into the later rounds was good, but what made him think that throwing no punchers was a good idea?

    It doesn't matter what tactics a fighter adopts, throwing punches has to figure in the plan, any fighter knows that. Audley couldn't possibly think Haye would tire without any input from himself.
     
  4. BodyBlaster

    BodyBlaster Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I disagree about the strategy with Haye being to take him into the latter rounds.
    Yes, if your one of the K bro's, its how they fight but if your Audley, he had to come out agressive and make David go backwards. Ruiz showed in spurts that Hayes not that clever when pressed back, and Audley is huge with a good jab, and power in his left hand.
    When I saw him go straight to centre ring, thought oh ho, hes going for it.
    Even if his plan was the latter rounds, how do you expect to keep an opponent like Haye, at bay, without doing anything.
    He wasnt going to outbox Haye, too much speed differential, so he had to pressure him. Mistakes are caused by pressure in any sport.
    Jab and grab and lean on would at least have been a better idea.
    Maybe he was waiting for "destiny" to knock Haye out.
     
  5. scurlaruntings

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  6. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Dress it up all you want, call it "strategy" if you will - but all it really was was Fraudley doing what he ALWAYS did when he got in the ring - running, covering up, doing everything he could from getting cracked on that glass jaw of his. I don't blame him - hell, if I had his whiskers I'd be afraid to get hit too - but to call this a "strategy" is a stretch to say the least!:lol:
     
  7. gooners!!

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    I disagree.

    You dont take yourself into the mid rounds by waiting it out, tucking up, particularly if you have a habbit of getting disorganized when you shell up, when someone keeps the punches coming. To get to the mid rounds you fight your way to that point, otherwise, you get blasted out there and your chance has been and gone before you get chance to implement that strategy, which is what happened. Ironic that Harrison doesn't have the Boxing IQ to understand the game plan he says he didn't get chance to implement, failed him, because it was reliant on waiting around thinking he could ghost his way into the later rounds.



    No. Harrison's best shot was to create his own offense, not wait on Haye's mistakes, particularly when Harrison has slower reflexes due to age, which means he probably cant react sufficiently enough when trying to counter. I mean why would you NOT try to create your own offense when your best shot at winning was test Haye's shaky chin?


    If Harrison waited on Haye, tried work his offense off his defense, which would be Haye's offense, then he is reliant on whether Haye will or will not make a mistake, which as you can see, effects your activity when/if that does not happen as regularly as you anticipate.



    It was the worst game plan available. Infact I said from the begining Harrison needs to create his own offense, make something happen, deny Haye space and time to set of his offense, go looking for Haye's chin, given that testing Haye's chin was his best shot in the fight.

    I mean your damn near 40 years old, why would you sit back and try and counter a guy who is already quicker than you were when you were in your prime, and now your 40? I spoke about the way Harrison shells up when attacked, can be disorganized when you keep the punches coming, well that might be one of the reasons Haye was able to bum rush in that infamous sparring session, take liberties, which makes Harrison look worse, cause he should of anticipated that kinda thing.


    The only effective thing Harrison did, was, as he said, made it difficult for Haye to step off the line to start his offense, but as you see, he still navigated his way off it and managed lay Harrison out, so....

    I knew Harrison would revert to countering, looking for singles. Harrison is one trick pony, he puts the right jab out there to measure you, then when you realize he isn't throwing the jab, that you can close the distance on, him tries to walk you into the left hand, that is all he does these days, which is why he isn't active enough.
     
  8. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Haye could have fought 120 round at that intensity.
     
  9. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    spot on to get home early
     
  10. DamonD

    DamonD Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree with you there.
     
  11. Grant1

    Grant1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's bolloxs.

    The whole 'latter rounds' things is just nonsense because if we'd had 10 rounds like the first two, Haye would have been as fresh as a daisy come 11 and 12.
     
  12. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    "David Haye can't knock me out"

    "I'm going to be in Davids face for every second of every minute of every round"

    :lol: mug
     
  13. BoxerGaz

    BoxerGaz East Side Boxing VIP Full Member

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    agree with you completley mate it was a very poor performance from Harrison.
     
  14. SoX BoX

    SoX BoX Member Full Member

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    "Davids Gonna be in the fight of his life"

    To be fair those first 2 rounds seemed like a lifetime
     
  15. BoxerGaz

    BoxerGaz East Side Boxing VIP Full Member

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    lol agree with you there mate, was poor

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