Aussie ESB Gentlemans club

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Hmmm, Nov 6, 2009.


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  1. Hmmm

    Hmmm :P Full Member

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    Right Now - Just sitting on my balcony enjoying A fine 15 YO Scotch (the 25 YO in the cabinet tucked away for a special occasion), coupled with some Caribbean tobacco specialties.

    For some reason ESB came into mind. Of all the chaos that goes on in other threads - the to and fro bickering and arguing - the proving each other wrong/right in childish ways - I thought ESB could do with a civil gentlemans club.

    This thread is for civilised gentleman to discuss issues in a gentlemanly fashion. Express opinions in complete calm. No heated debates.

    Lets chilll, relax and discuss.

    The first issue that comes to mind is the death of the heavyweight division. In my opinion its not as dead as the hype indicates. The Ukrainian Doctors make sitting at the top look easy. But rightfully so. They arent idiots when it comes to the sweet science. They just turn a blind eye to what fans want, thats all. They are perfectionists - and perfectionists arent ones to headhunt and look for knockouts...


    Now Gents, please discuss in an orderly and sane manner. If you disagree just express the fact that you disagree and respond with what you think. If you want chaos there are plenty of other threads you can use.

    Additional rules:
    Mundine and Green are banned from this thread.

    Cheers Gents, and drink up.
     
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  2. pecks

    pecks ***** Full Member

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    Thankfully I kept reading past this point.
     
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  3. pecks

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    Regarding the topic, I think the HW division is still a bit of a let down, though Haye brings some hope to it.
    The sad thing is arguably the top 2 heavyweights have no interest of fighting each other (for very good reason mind you).

    To the casual fan, Valuev comes off as an absolute nightmare, little do they know that he's as boring as bat**** to watch, and his punches are about as lethal as a marshmallow being flicked at your face. If the guy could pack a punch, he'd bring so much more to the division.
     
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  4. Hmmm

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    yes lol Im trying to avoid Jail at this point...
     
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  5. Hmmm

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    Valuev is also a thinker in the ring mind you... You're right, his power punches arent too hard but if you watch his fights you'll notice that his Jabs hurt a lot more than the average HW jab...

    Haye is still a question mark. Come sunday I will make up my mind on him. Tua's recent performance was a breath of fresh air but its about 5 years too late and its a flame that, even if it burns bright for a while will fade rather quickly.

    I really hope Solis gets himself into better shape. Hes a good prospect but similar to Arreola just doesnt put in the hard yards...

    I dont think theres ever been a time in history where so many retired greats are considering comebacks and cherishing their chances for a title...
     
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  6. Phil Austin

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    some things are worth going to jail for! Lol
     
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  7. Hmmm

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    indeed good sir. :D

    we are only human... :p
     
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  8. pecks

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    I'm not convinced that Haye is the complete package. I think he'd get murdered by the Klits, but aside from that, I can see him really impressing against the rest.
     
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  9. boxoncottonon

    boxoncottonon Boxing Addict banned

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    Interesting topic.

    The HW division has definatley been a let down over the last 5-6 years.

    Lewis, being the last genuine pugilistic crowd drawer to the HW carried himself with a charm and a swagger not seen since his retirement. Like him or loath him a replacement with the same charisma is no where in sight.

    Unfortunately the top HW's are all from the former USSR and have the same clinical demeanor as portrayed by Ivan Drago, humorless bores adding to thier bank accounts for the greater good of thier nations.

    Perhaps at this point the HW really does need someone like Areoli who can command an audience of hopefulls if not desperados by virtue of being an unfit slob who can punch and potentially take these boring easten block ****knuckles out.
     
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  10. ashley

    ashley Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I dont think they post here anyway :yep

    Although some people think Left Jab Danny is in fact Green himself.....I dont think so :-(

    Anyway can we curse in this thread like...."get ****ed"?

    Or do we need to tame it down a bit like...."toss off old chap"

    So back to the thread.......I think the HW division is just fine....the Klits going great......Valuev about to own Haye.....Arreola got handed his ass a few weeks back......I have no problem with the division.

    And we have a nice little aussie/ NZ domestic scene with Sol, Alex, Tua, Mark, Cameron and co, its all good :good
     
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  11. pecks

    pecks ***** Full Member

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    One month avatar bet says that you're wrong (like you always are ;)). But keep in mind that I wont be such a gentleman like I was last time when it comes to choosing an avatar for you (see stiffy's old avatar and location) :yep.
     
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  12. ashley

    ashley Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    But this is the Gentlemans club.....you would have to be nice :yep
     
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  13. pecks

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    Far dirtier things have gone down in gentlemans clubs. :p
     
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  14. ashley

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    Ok its a bet....loser get the dragons flag for 1 month :yep:deal
     
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  15. pecks

    pecks ***** Full Member

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    :nonoNow thats even too dirty for a Kings Cross, back alley crack *****/junkie club.
     
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