Australian Boxing Classics.

flamengo · Aug 23, 2009

Remember the tough guy, Charkey Ramon?? In 1973 he went and fought in Noumea against Jaques Kichichian.. the French hero..

Been trying to find that particular film for Charkey, which lead Haris Mores to seek out his New Caledonian contact Phillippe Goddard for any knowlege of it... As it turns out, Phillipe was in fact the promotor of the bout, doesnt have the film, but politely requsted a message to be passed on to Charkey..

"I'm sorry about the accomodation I put you in"

**** me dead!! Must have been a rat infested dump if the promotor remembers it 36 years after the event!!!!!!!!

cookie the carr · Aug 25, 2009

flamengo said: ↑

Remember the tough guy, Charkey Ramon?? In 1973 he went and fought in Noumea against Jaques Kichichian.. the French hero..

Been trying to find that particular film for Charkey, which lead Haris Mores to seek out his New Caledonian contact Phillippe Goddard for any knowlege of it... As it turns out, Phillipe was in fact the promotor of the bout, doesnt have the film, but politely requsted a message to be passed on to Charkey..

"I'm sorry about the accomodation I put you in"

**** me dead!! Must have been a rat infested dump if the promotor remembers it 36 years after the event!!!!!!!!
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I heard a story about CHARKEY RAMON in noumea he was suppose to fighting EMILE GRIFFITH when the promoter switch the fighter at the last minute bringing in this mad mexican southpaw so CHARKEY refused to fight and black balled the fight and the fans went crazy and were about riot first RAMON was locked up then given a police escort to airport out of the country.

flamengo · Aug 25, 2009

cookie the carr said: ↑

I heard a story about CHARKEY RAMON in noumea he was suppose to fighting EMILE GRIFFITH when the promoter switch the fighter at the last minute bringing in this mad mexican southpaw so CHARKEY refused to fight and black balled the fight and the fans went crazy and were about riot first RAMON was locked up then given a police escort to airport out of the country.
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Charkey refused to fight??

Cookie, those words make me think twice about believing the story.... stranger things have happened though.. PM your email address and I'll post through some pics of the Kichichian bout..

COULDHAVEBEEN · Sep 7, 2009

cookie the carr said: ↑

I heard a story about CHARKEY RAMON in noumea he was suppose to fighting EMILE GRIFFITH when the promoter switch the fighter at the last minute bringing in this mad mexican southpaw so CHARKEY refused to fight and black balled the fight and the fans went crazy and were about riot first RAMON was locked up then given a police escort to airport out of the country.
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Cute story, but I also doubt it's authenticity.

Here's a good Q&A between Ray Wheatley and TROY WATERS:
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Henneberry2 · Aug 9, 2019

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For those with any interest...

Was in the midst of some of our former greats today, having taken a visit to the Melbourne General Cemetary. 8/5/09. Interesting feeling to walk around and look for the graves of notables. An old mate encouraged me to do so, and its a fkn great thing to do again. This time with a little more knowlege and appreciation than 'our' visit 18 years ago.

There's a great list of names, all having creditable reasons for rememberance.

Bill Lang. He faught Tommy Burns for the world H/W title. Also the only white man to take on Jack Johnson, Sam langford and Sam McVea. Not to forget he took on 3 world champs... Johnson, Burns and Fitzsimmons. Both Johnson and Fitz before and after the Champions tenure. Jack Johnson also used Lang as his sparring partner when in Oz.

James 'Tut' Ryan. Former H/W champ of OZ. June 1901- Sept 1901.

Bill Farnan. He belted the ribs out of Peter Jackson in 4 rounds, in 1884.. This bout was Australias first 'official' H/W title under 'Queensbury Rules'. Unfortuantely, Bill Farnan was dead at 39 y/o. Peter Jackson had to chase the fat arse feeble champ, John L. Sullivan for a bout... to no avail.

Archie Kemp. 20th Sept. 1949. His demise at the hands of the great Jack Hassen was a sad end to a promising career. Thankfully, his grave is now restored. Interestingly, his father died less than 12 months later. Robert Kemp, 10th May, 1950..aged 60. Archie's mum only saw another 3 years. 4th April, 1953. Very tragic.

Jack McGowan. He was a triple Australian Champ with a tough exterior. Aust Bantam champ 1890, Feather champ, 1894 and Lightweight Champ in 1909.. Not a bad career at all. Effects of the game must have caught up with him, and he was 'felled' by a light punch at the Melbourne Uni.,which caused his death the following day.

I've been taken to task, and asked to write a 'book' of sorts on Jack.. Its just a shame the Vic. State Library wont let me enter with an esky of Bourban. Will give it a shot anyway.

Dan Creedon. This bloke was another AUSSIE freak... from n.z!!! LOL. Dan was the Aust M/W champ having belted Starlight Rollings in 1891. He defended 4 times (3 ko's and a 23 round draw.) Fighting the likes of the original Joe Walcott thrice, Bob Fitzsimmons and Jack Root, he's a rare gem. He's buried beside his old mate 'Starlight' also.

If anyone is in Melb, and would like to view the graves/pay respects... just P.M me.

The great Walter Lindrum is also there, with a Billiard Table Grave bed.
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Of interest Fred Henneberry is buried in Narrandera cemetery. Wander into the Catholic section near the entry gates, and take the first lane to the right, and drive to the end of the cul de sac. The headstone is emerald green, as were Fred’s boxing trunks, in honor of his Irish heritage. and say hello if you are passing through the Riverina. Fred is buried with his wife Mary (Molly). Fred was my father.

Clinton · Aug 10, 2019

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Guys, a great quote was said "If you shake a family tree hard enough, a boxer will fall out soon enough". A.T.

The Famechon Family Tree is a big example.

We best know Johnny Famechon, former WBC F/W champion (recognised by "The Ring Magazine" as champ also) for his 'hit and not be hit' style, for the majority of us its from footage only.

For the modern man, Famechon may be somewhat illicet as Champ.. He only won the WBC F/W title?? When taking into account his actual performances and credits, a better picture can be painted.

The name "FAMECHON" was synonymous with boxing for years in France, Europe, USA and Australia. When its dicected, approx 15 countries may be involved with the name.

Johnny is perhaps our best loved fighter from the last generations, and out of the Famechon family tree he fell. He had charisma, class, a tight-lipped mouth, pure boxing style with great science, anotomical credibility and a defence worthy of his trainers accolades.

For his worth, Fammo is underpriced. With the Famechon name having mention for close to 20 years in the pages of European boxing, its little wonder why a 5 year old boy, fresh to Richmond, Victoria would assume a different roll in life.

In a basic view, Fammo was a class fighter from early on. Having not engaged in any Amatuer bouts, his 'apprenticeship' in Boxing, beginning mid-1961 and lasting through mid 1964 was a great test of value. Fighting through the 3, 4, 6, and 8 round prelims, he'd proven his values to Festival Hall and Ambrose Palmer en-route.

For Palmer, Fammo and Australian Boxing.. little was to brag about at this point. Come the end of 1964, an Australian Featherweight title was placed around the waist of Fammo, having conquered the brother of Oympian Wally Taylor... that being Ollie Taylor for the F/W crown, in November of that year.

This is where I'd like to hear stories and tales begin.

Considering names of recent/current referees and judges were not far from being opponents of Johnny Famechon at that point.
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Great. Thanks

Clinton · Aug 10, 2019

Henneberry2 said: ↑

Of interest Fred Henneberry is buried in Narrandera cemetery. Wander into the Catholic section near the entry gates, and take the first lane to the right, and drive to the end of the cul de sac. The headstone is emerald green, as were Fred’s boxing trunks, in honor of his Irish heritage. and say hello if you are passing through the Riverina. Fred is buried with his wife Mary (Molly). Fred was my father.
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Thanks for sharing

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