Australian Boxing/SM Memorial thread

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  1. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4 Full Member

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    Spare me
     
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  2. JOSEY WALES

    JOSEY WALES Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Maybe none of the guys he trained possessed anywhere near the skill level his standard of training required, you can only p iss with the c ock you got .just out of interest who was his best charge both talent and commitment wise ? I'd be interested in knowing this and how far he brought them .
     
  3. Sandman_

    Sandman_ Lineal champ Full Member

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    I think Jeff Fenech has a decent record as a trainer. He launched the careers of many guys following the 2000 Olympics several of whom went on to achieve plenty, including under him.

    He took Vic Darchinyan to his first world title against long-time then undefeated IBF Flyweight champ, Irene Pacheco. That was a great win for Vic & anyone who has ever watched that fight should know that Fenech played a significant role on the night, as well as every other fight in Vic's career up to that point. Vic never lost a fight with Fenech as his trainer. Plenty of others received significant world title shots against top shelf opposition. Hussy Hussein, Skinny Hussein, Glen Kelly, Shannon Taylor & Nader Hamden come to mind.

    He also launched the careers of Danny Green (took him to a good WBC interim Super Middleweight title win in Canada before he was DQ'd in Germany for the fully-fledged version of the title in a fight he was winning), Sakio Bika (future WBC Super Middleweight champ), Naofel Ben Rabah (2-time world title challenger) & Daniel Geale (future IBF & WBA Middleweight champ).

    I had to like KelandBeave's comment above when I recalled Fenech in the corner during Sakio Bika's fight with John Wayne Parr. Bika came back to the corner during what was a hard-fought contest complaining about an injury. Fenech asked him what was wrong & Bika said that he had injured his hand. Fenech's reply? "You've got another one!" Sakio went on & won the fight.
     
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  4. DONT B SCARED

    DONT B SCARED Pimpin Aint Easy Full Member

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    Obviously but it goes both ways,just look at what Horn achieved despite his obvious limitations and Rushton as a trainer.
    Also it would obviously be easier for you to name fighters Fenech had possitive impact,on since as I said the vast majority did nothing under his tutelage and if you speak to some of these fighters as i have,you will find that there isnt much positive to say about him as a trainer
     
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    DONT B SCARED Pimpin Aint Easy Full Member

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    Those where most of the best guys he had and the majority of them had there best success after they split from him.
     
  6. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY Todd Morgan Beamer (11/24/68 – 9/11/01) Lets roll! Full Member

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    So? What's your point? Fenech is still a way better trainer than the charlatan Rushton who much like his pupil was totally exposed the other day. He's getting torn to bits right now in the boxing community and social media. Reputation is totally ruined. Good riddance.
     
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    DONT B SCARED Pimpin Aint Easy Full Member

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    Saying somebody is a better trainer then Rushton isn't saying much now is it?
    You and your oxygen thief mate can continue going on rants about Rushton all you want, but no idea why you keep lieing and connecting me to saying he was a good trainer,just like now my comments were about Fenechs abilities as a trainer,since he has been taking pot shots for years at Rushton and plenty of others in aussie boxing.
     
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    DONT B SCARED Pimpin Aint Easy Full Member

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    You talk a lot of **** on here as well as making a ton of accusation about me and others but not surprisingly you are never ever able to back it up or prove the idiotic things you say.
     
  9. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY Todd Morgan Beamer (11/24/68 – 9/11/01) Lets roll! Full Member

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    You took issue with Midnight calling Rushton one of the worst trainers in boxing. Now you packpeddle because Rushton was once again exposed as the terrible trainer that he is and is being ripped to shreds right now. @MidniteProwler and myself both remember this argument so play dumb all you want.

    Fenechs jabs at Rushton are great and totally necessary. He criticizes the obvious imperfections of the boxing scene in his country and wants it to improve. You should be glad that he's doing it instead of being a mindless cheerleader for Australian boxing.
     
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  10. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY Todd Morgan Beamer (11/24/68 – 9/11/01) Lets roll! Full Member

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    Because you don't have any proper arguments to retort with.
     
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  11. juppity

    juppity Boxing Addict Full Member

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    * The numbers are in Tim Tszyu is PPV Gold with 100 ,000 subscribers. Matt Rose wants
    him to have a fight in Aust before end of the yr ( Dennis Hogan is now chasing the fight )
    before heading next yr to the States where he hopes to have a world title shot by the end
    of the yr . Opponent's being mentioned for overseas debut are Kell Brook and Cuban
    Erislandy Lara.
    * Big fight card in Oct in Brisbane headlined by Jai Opetia ( name mentioned Ben
    Kelleher ) will be live on Fox. Isaac Hardman will fight if an opponent can be found
    on five / six weeks notice.
    * Jackson Woods has said that for Liam Wilson fight he took it on 4 weeks notice and
    had to lose 14 kgs.
     
  12. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY Todd Morgan Beamer (11/24/68 – 9/11/01) Lets roll! Full Member

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    I'd stay away from Lara for sure lol. Kell Brook might be an interesting albeit risky fight for Tszyu. Hogan domestically is a decent fight with relatively low risk. Although he got shafted in his world title bid against Munguia I don't see him posing much of a threat to the more fundamentally sound and active Tszyu. Either that or Zerafa are the most likely moves wouldn't you say? With Teixeira being targeted sometime next year.

    Btw keep up the good work. Your consistent effort in delivering news to this thread is much appreciated brother. :thumbsup:
     
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  13. Sandman_

    Sandman_ Lineal champ Full Member

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    I like both Dennis Hogan & Michael Zerafa as opponents. With more than 100,000 PPV buys @ $60, Junior Tszyu should stick around in Australia for another couple of fights & really cash in. Do the math.

    Dennis Hogan is an uncrowned former WBO Junior Middleweight champ. His scalp would look good next to that of the former WBO Welter champ. A fight with Michael Zerafa would be more likely to interest people in Victoria so he's possibly the more marketable domestic opponent of the two. People know who Zerafa is & so it would be a chance to raise Junior's east coast profile in a big domestic market (i.e. Victoria). With Coronavirus still prevalent down there, maybe Dennis Hogan in Queensland makes more sense first up. Followed by Zerafa.

    Junior needs to keep his options open in so far as international opponents are concerned. Patrick Teixeira looks the most beatable, but I think he's locked into a fight with Brian Castano next which he will probably lose. Castano is hard punching & dangerous. Erislandy Lara doesn't hit as hard & is old so he has to be the next best choice. It's going to be exciting seeing Junior Tszyu in with a genuine top 5 guy. I reckon consolidate here first with another couple of fights, then go for it.

    Great to hear Jai Opetaia is fighting in October. I hope we see Dean Lonergan promoting that one. I think Lonergan is an excellent promoter & he has some really good young Australian talent at his disposal that can keep him involved in the sport here. He has an interest in Liam Wilson, Brock Jarvis & Sam Goodman. The guy he really needs to be promoting though is Justis Huni. Lonergan has great contacts up there in Queensland & Huni is a Queenslander. Lonergan also has experience in developing Joseph Parker's career as a H/W contender all the way through to WBO champ so that looks like a good match to me.
     
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  14. DONT B SCARED

    DONT B SCARED Pimpin Aint Easy Full Member

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    Believe what you want,as we all know ,the way you fools see and remember things,isn't remotely close to reality.
    I don't intend wasting what little time i currently spend on here,having these boring irrelevant discussions,or continually having to correct you both and defend myself from all these silly baseless accusations.
     
  15. Sandman_

    Sandman_ Lineal champ Full Member

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    Spring is nearly sprung on the Stifler's Mum thread which means a new top 12 Australian fighters to watch list. No bias, no favouritism, no discrimination. And for the very first time, no Horndogs!

    1. Timmy "Tool Train" Tszyu 16-0(12) - In a Stifler's Mum thread EXCLUSIVE and for the very first time anywhere in the world, the ultimate destination of the Tool Train can be revealed. It's a place we've been to before & we liked so much that we're going back there again. That's right, the Tool Train's ultimate destination is UNDISPUTEDVILLE! Get on board or get left behind.
    2. Jason "Big Leprechaun" Moloney 21-1(18) - Moloney is putting his big leprechaun status on the line next up by stepping in with Naoya Inoue. A good chin stops good hitting so we're going to need the Big Leprechaun's to be granite.
    3. "Gorgeous" George Kambosos Jr 18-0(10) - Not sure if he's fighting in the UK next up. I'm not quite as high on George as some but the consensus view of the Stifler's Mum thread is that he's right up there. Welcome to the rarefied air of the top 3, George.
    4. Andrew "Little Leprechaun" Moloney 21-1(14) - Can get back in the saddle although I'm not sure an immediate rematch with his conqueror will end in a different result. The Little Leprechaun is 21 and 0 as an Aussie. He's 0 and 1 as an Irishman.
    5. Justis "Juice on the Loose" Huni 0-0(0) - We should be celebrating our first ever Olympic boxing gold medal right about now. Curse you, Covid-19.
    6. Jai "Time to Fly" Opetaia 19-0(15) - Glad to hear he is headlining in Brisbane in October. Needs to establish regional supremacy, then go after a world title.
    7. Liam "The Lion" Wilson 7-0(5) - I like this guy to go all the way. I really do. Question marks over his chin & overall physical strength but I think he's got the skills to pay the bills. Wouldn't mind seeing a local showdown with Gorgeous George @ lightweight.
    8. Michael "Z is for Zorro" Zerafa 27-4(16) - About to be tied to the tracks with a Tool Train approaching.
    9. Cesar Mateo Tapia 12-0(7) - Can fight. It's a shame we don't get to see him do it often enough on Australian TV. Would like to see him take a broom to the local Super Middleweight ranks.
    10. Liam Paro 19-0(12) - The Prodigy deserves a top 10 spot for consistent good performances against decent opposition.
    11. Daniel Lewis 6-1(4) - Drop Bombz needed to beat Fundora in America to move through to the next level. Big ask, figuratively & literally, but he's one to watch when things resume.
    12. Sam Goodman 7-0(4) - Brock Jarvis gets all the hype, but I like this bloke. And b/c I'm doing the list, he's on it & Brock's not. He's also fought this year, Brock hasn't. In fact, Brock hasn't fought since this day last year. It takes more than Aussie journo media hype to crack it for a spot in the Stifler's Mum thread top 12.
     
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