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I can contribute to what discussion I want to contribute in, bias goes both ways, Calzaghe could have TKO'd Hopkins in 1 Saturday night and you'd have had nothing but negativity to bring here, so why are you apart of the discussion when you are at the direct opposite extreme?

 

The bad video is the issue, fight wasn't close at all, most of the best scorer's/posters here scored it wide for Calzaghe. Either 8 or 9 rounds clean.

The worst part is Hopkins fans praising him for what he did, excessive clinching and faking low blows. If not for the flash KD in the first, they'd have not given him so much benefit of the doubt in scoring, but 1 KD doesn't mean you win subsequent rounds like they must have thought.

 

I really thought Saturday's fight would have calmed the Calzaghe fans down a bit but it has made them worse than ever. I'm not going to argue about who won the fight but stop Hopkins?! He wasn't landing any heavy shots at all.

 

Not sure what all was involved, but that wasn't vintage Calzaghe, as I said he's clearly declining and that could be it. Part of it could be styles(obvious), his style was just as bad for Hopkins as Hopkins could get NO work done, even less than he did on Wright, Taylor and Tarver as I said would be the case. You have two guys here who's styles do not compliment each other.

Don't think the hands were a problem.

Maybe the weight's not as good as we thought it'd be, or maybe he's just not adjusted to the weight yet, but as it stands that was a subpar performance and it did nothing for his P4P ranking, people dropping him a few spots is something I didn't argue with....

But was that a close fight? No, not at all. Rewatch it with good video, 9 to 3 all day long, otherwise a wide UD.

And yes, in a 15 rounder especially, Hopkins would have been stopped.

 

To be honest, your score is more valid than some of these guys giving Hopkins 5 and 6 rounds here, that's absurdity.

Probably a corner retirement, if he clinched 2x less and didn't pull any **** with the ref and actually had to use his defence more and try to counter and outfight Calzaghe more. Good defensive boxing he DID DO in 'parts' vs. Joe, but the excessive clinching was just too much.

He wasn't too old to fight legitimately against Tarver and Wright, fought both of them in his normal dirty style, but legally in the same right.

Now according to the sour Hopkins fans, Tarver and Wright got a good version and Calzaghe got a shot to pieces version.:yep

Well he was in his best visible shape that I've seen in a while, but that's just Shillstone promoting his client.

 

Some people just don't seem to enjoy good sporting entertainment.:yep

 

That sounds to me like you're trying to make Calzaghe look better. "Even with his worst performance by a mile he still beat Hopkins..."

I don't need to but what if I said it was Hopkins's worst performance by 10 miles?

 

I really enjoyed it actually. I know it wasn't a great fight but when I'm really supporting someone I can often enjoy bad fights.