Average Age of Heavyweight Champ Opponents

edward morbius · May 4, 2017

Mr.DagoWop said: ↑

No. That tells nothing about the age of the fighters they beat that made them a good fighter. You have to calculate the age of the fighters that they fought that earned them a title shot as well as the fighters they fought while the champ along with any other fighters they fought that were good quality and not just cans to make money. Telling the average age of all of their opponents is ****ing useless. I might as well calculate the most common hair color of their opponents. You completely misunderstood the purpose of this thread.

Here's Dempsey's list:
John Lester Jackson, Jim Flynn, Meehan, Smith, Morris, Homer Smith, Brennan, Miske, Porky Flynn, Fulton, Levinsky, Willard, Carpentier, Gibbons, Firpo, Tunney, and Sharkey.

Anyone missing?
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What exactly is your thesis? What do you maintain the age of opponents indicates?
You have Dempsey on this post, so let's take two of his opponents. Carpentier was 27 when he fought Dempsey. Gibbons was 32. Experience? But Carpentier had been fighting 14 years to Gibbons 12. Ability? But Gibbons defeated Carpentier in 1924 when he was 33 and Carpentier 30. So what exactly does an age comparison between these two opponents prove about Dempsey's competition?

I understand your point about filtering out the tomato cans. I don't understand what you are saying about age and the quality of opposition.

Mr.DagoWop · May 4, 2017

Saintpat said: ↑

I can't judge Dempsey's resume by an average age of certain fighters he fought, off the age of every fighter he ever fought or even every person he ever met.

It's completely immaterial what their averages ages are. Doesn't make his opposition any different in any way -- they were as good as they were whe he fought them, and their average age doesn't play into it in any way.

But your methodology is flawed.

I'm done on this thread.
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The only thing you displayed on this thread is your misunderstanding of averages and logic.

Mr.DagoWop · May 4, 2017

edward morbius said: ↑

What exactly is your thesis? What do you maintain the age of opponents indicates?
You have Dempsey on this post, so let's take two of his opponents. Carpentier was 27 when he fought Dempsey. Gibbons was 32. Experience? But Carpentier had been fighting 14 years to Gibbons 12. Ability? But Gibbons defeated Carpentier in 1924 when he was 33 and Carpentier 30. So what exactly does an age comparison between these two opponents prove about Dempsey's competition?

I understand your point about filtering out the tomato cans. I don't understand what you are saying about age and the quality of opposition.
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There is no "thesis". It is just the average age of the non-bums on each major heavyweight champs resume starting from Dempsey onward. Take from it what you will.

How would the age of Gibbons and Carpentier when they fought have anything to do with Dempsey?

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