Awful CBS Column: Boxing's bloody mess: Pacquiao meet McGwire

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  1. jeffem

    jeffem New Member Full Member

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    By Gregg Doyel
    CBSSports.com National Columnist

    Manny Pacquiao is face to face with the most important opponent of his boxing career, and it's not Floyd Mayweather. The opponent is himself. At stake? Nothing much. Only his place in the boxing pantheon. Only his legacy.

    This is his Mark McGwire Moment, and Pacquiao must attack it forcefully and bluntly. So far, he has bobbed and weaved. He has slipped the issue. He has refused Mayweather's insistence on Olympic-style drug testing before their 147-pound mega-fight, which was set for March 13 but now appears to be off because Pacquiao won't submit the necessary blood. He says he's superstitious. He says giving blood so close to the fight would weaken him. He says a bunch of gibberish, none of which makes sense, all of which makes him look as guilty as McGwire looked when he hit Capitol Hill and refused to discuss steroids.

    "I'm not here to discuss the past," McGwire said in March 2005, and cemented his future. Almost five years have passed, and McGwire is still viewed as a steroid cheat. Three times his name has appeared on the Hall of Fame ballot, and three times he has failed to come close to induction despite having career numbers certainly worthy of Cooperstown, assuming he amassed those numbers legally. Most voters think he did not. Most voters are probably right, given his cartoonishly muscled body, his historical power and his evasion on Capitol Hill on March 17, 2005.

    Now it is Manny Pacquiao's turn. He has come to his own version of Capitol Hill, and he has chosen to walk the path of Mark McGwire and avoid the issue entirely. He's not here to talk about the past, or about blood testing -- and like McGwire, Manny Pacquiao thinks that should be good enough.

    It's not. It's not close to good enough. Fair or not, illegal performance enhancement is the new witch hunt, the new red scare. In the 17th century, if you were accused of being a witch, you were a witch unless you could prove otherwise. How could you prove otherwise? Well, you could be thrown off a cliff or burned at the stake. If you survived, then obviously you were a witch. And if you died? Well ... oops. But on the bright side, the fatal fall or fire cleansed your reputation.

    In the 1950s, when this country's fear of communism was stoked by a madman named Joseph McCarthy, the accusation of being a communist was the same thing as being a communist. If you were accused of it, you were it, until you proved otherwise. How could you prove otherwise? Well, you couldn't. Many victims of McCarthyism went to prison. At least one committed suicide. After a few years of nonsense, the hysteria died down, and McCarthy's influence subsided. And then, mercifully, he died at age 48 in 1957.

    Now the onus is on Pacquiao. Like so many who came before him -- McGwire, Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, cyclists and sprinters and body builders -- he is guilty until proven innocent. But this is different from the Salem witch trials or the McCarthy's reign of terror, because the solution is simple:

    Do the blood test.

    Pacquiao's supporters say he will do the blood test, but they are right only up to a point. They refuse to see beyond that point, because that's what supporters do: They see what they want to see. And Pacquiao fans see this: They see Pacquiao as being accommodating -- willing to submit to a urine test whenever it is asked, and even willing to submit to a blood test months before the fight, or shortly after the fight.

    Pacquiao fans ignore this glaring truth, that their hero is not willing to give blood in the weeks leading up to the fight.

    When the HGH would still be in his system.

    That's what I see. I see Pacquiao avoiding the blood test. He says giving blood so soon before a fight would weaken him, but that's nonsense. He wouldn't be donating blood, for God's sake. He'd be giving a sample. A smidgen. A negligible amount.

    And let's be honest about this: There is reason to believe Pacquiao could be -- not is, but could be -- aided by HGH. He is fighting at 40 pounds above his debut weight, and he is better than ever. That goes against a century of boxing history, which has shown that fighters tend to get less effective as they rise in weight for two reasons: They lose power as they stray from their original weight class, and the accumulation of boxing's abuse begins to erode their skills.

    Not Pacquiao. The bigger he gets, the older he gets (he's 31), the better he gets. He was 39-3-2 with 30 knockouts in 44 fights at weights ranging from 106 to 129½ pounds. In his past 11 fights, most of them over 130 pounds and some of them into the 140s, he is 11-0 with eight knockouts, and he has done that against some of the world's best fighters in those classes. It makes no sense, and when it comes to the search for performance-enhancing cheats, that is the biggest red flag of all:

    It makes no sense.

    Until now, Pacquiao has somehow gotten bigger and better and yet he has avoided being linked to drugs. Why? Because boxing isn't a major media sport, and I say that as an amateur boxer myself. I love the sport, but it doesn't get the scrutiny of baseball or even of track or cycling, and so Pacquiao's unusual rise in size and performance has passed under the radar -- until now. Mayweather wants Pacquiao to prove his cleanliness by submitting a small amount of blood before their fight, and it is not an unreasonable request. Olympic fighters do it. But not Manny Pacquiao?

    Pacquiao's promoter, Bob Arum, says Pacquiao will fight someone else in March. Pacquiao says he will sue Mayweather, and others, for slander. They think life will go on, and I am here to tell them, it will not.

    Pacquiao is now linked to performance-enhancing drugs. Right or wrong, there it is -- and it won't go away. He can make like Mark McGwire and avoid the issue, and while his biggest fans will continue to believe in him, the rest of us will not forget.

    And when the time comes to assess his legacy, we will burn him at the stake.
     
  2. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    He joins the rest of the idiots who already convicted a dude with no evidence.
     
  3. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    most people won't burn him at the stake. Most people have learned from the mistakes of McCarthyism
     
  4. ReturnofTheKing

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    loved this column:happy:admin
     
  5. deeta

    deeta Member Full Member

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    "his past 11 fights, most of them over 130 pounds and some of them into the 140s, he is 11-0 with eight knockouts, and he has done that against some of the world's best fighters in those classes. It makes no sense"

    daamn this pacquiao fella is that good huh? what hes doing is impossible...just simply incredible. hes definitally an atg based on the praises from this article.
     
  6. el mosquito

    el mosquito Boxing Addict banned

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    So the HGH will be in his system before the fight but will magically disappear fifteen minutes right after the fight. This **** is getting boring
     
  7. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Actually, it's really good this column exists. It'll be perfect for use in court.
     
  8. HONDA2006

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    That is an excellent article, it represents what NORMAL people think of pac's refusal to undergo random blood tests. The only people who don't see what is REALLY going on are p*ctards/those with very limited intelligence, or people who are a combination of the two.
     
  9. futonrevolution

    futonrevolution Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Looks like Gregg broke out the thesaurus again. :roll:
    I guess he ran out of ideas for fake hate mail to send himself.

    "I write. Unto paragraph, unknowingly unable.

    New sentence of is. Belonging futuristic paragraph reading required.

    I can haz radio shows plz???"
     
  10. Bee KeepZ

    Bee KeepZ Roid City Full Member

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  11. crimson

    crimson Boxing Addict banned

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    Stick with college basketball.
    Obviously an axe to grind or heavy bias. His logic is mind numbing.
     
  12. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fair or unfair McGwire had never tested positive for PED's or HGH during his career. The most damanging evdince against him was someone clamed to see a bottel of a suplment which at the time was allowed by MLB in his locker. Innotherwords the evdince against Mark McGwire is completely cercimstaunsual. He pled the 5th befor the Senate hearing and becsause of that he is being punished.
    Manny Pacquiao by refusing random testing which mayweather will also go through. Will only raise questions fair or unfair to the ligimitcy of his boxing career. He will go from an All Time Great to someone who's career is completly disregaurded or there will at least be an * next to all his wins.
    This post is not acusing Manny Pacquiao of using any preformance enhancers that are not alowed within the rules of boxing. However fair or unfair Manny Pacquiao faces the same fate as Mark McGwire.
     
  13. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Geeze, more blabber from writers who are clueless. HGH is supposedly only detectable via blood which is why they want to force random drug testing with blood.

    The problem is no one has EVER been caught using HGH, EVER. Why is this? It's because the stufff don't stay in the blood long enough.

    This makes the premise of testing via blood to catch HGH dopers FUTILE. Otherwise urine will detect everything blood will. **** That is if you are looking for everything, so just check all the damn checkboxes when you're ordering the test. Seriously.
     
  14. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    What a disaster. This was my concern from the beginning. Did Team Pacquiao and the allegedly smart folks over at Top Rank not see this coming?? Because I did. How ****ing stupid is this situation? Surely Bob Arum had some inkling airing this STEROIDS business in the open media would have these types of consequences? SURELY? This is why that old piece of garbage gets flack. He's so consumed with greed, arrogance, and defiance he makes STUPID moves. In this case COLLOSSALY STUPID moves. What a ****ing outrageously dumb **** Bob Arum is. This situation has far more than likely done irreparable damage to the reputation of Manny Pacquiao. FOR SHAME.
     
  15. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You mean Mayweather Snr fabricating lies and GBP stating as much via the media didn't ahve anything to do with it?