Awful CBS Column: Boxing's bloody mess: Pacquiao meet McGwire

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  1. KO Boxing

    KO Boxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Further evidence to suggest that this fight must happen for the sake of Pac, his reputation, his legacy, and his fans.
     
  2. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I remember, alot of drugs you could buy at the gas station at the time have been banned.

    It does seem odd somewhat, but the initial halt was the testing up to and on fight day. Then team Mayweather said there was no budge away from the USADA. The problem with that was they won't change their "scheduling" for anyone. So they wouldn't have given the fighters any window to not be blood tested before the fight.
     
  3. Farmboxer

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    Changing the rules of boxing because Void wants it that way?
     
  4. KO Boxing

    KO Boxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    From today:

    It appears the Floyd Mayweather Camp is open to a compromise on their demand of random blood testing. “As long as there’s a blood test, as long as there’s a urine test and as long as it’s random, a cutoff date is agreeable to us,” Mayweather’s representative Richard Schaefer of Golden Boy Promotions told the LA Times Saturday. Meanwhile, Pacquiao wrote on his blog “I am still willing to Fight Floyd Mayweather Jr. I never said the fight was off or I do not want to fight him. I will fight anyone at anytime and my record and past fights prove that. I have never and will never dodge anyone. These are my specifications for this fight regarding blood testing. I have offered to give a blood sample the day of the announcement of the fight at the press [conference]. I have offered to give a blood sample 30 days before the fight. I am willing to give blood immediately after the fight is over inside my dressing room . I am also willing to give urine tests at anytime any where everyday leading up to the fight. The truth is taking blood out of my body does not seem natural to me and mentally I feel it will weaken me if blood is taken from me just days before the fight. That does not make sense to me why anyone would do that.”


    Pity Pac is now saying the cut off date is THIRTY DAYS before the fight... What happened to 3, 5 and 7 days?
     
  5. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    They don't do RBC counts dude. Conte thinks yo have to test the RBC level to catch someone doping... that's really rudimentary. Why? Because it ignores the fact that you can naturally train in altitude to raise your RBC. This is why he's a loser stuck in 2003.

    The proper test for EPO is to use urine and detect recombinant EPO, aka. manufactured EPO.

    Question:
    1) EPO is a naturally occurring substance in the body. Could an athlete who lives at altitude or has great genetics and thus might have more EPO in their body naturally than a normal person, test positive for EPO?


    No. Currently, to be convicted of an EPO offense athletes must test positive for EPO with the urine EPO test. The urine EPO test is not an indirect test that detects unusually high EPO levels. Rather, it is a direct test that detects the actual presence of recombinant EPO (EPO from a source outside the body). Thus, it would be foolish for an athlete to argue that the test was just showing a naturally high level of natural EPO. As Dr. Catlin said to us, with the urine EPO test the testers "see a footprint of the (recombinant EPO) molecule". The World Anti-Doping Report of March 11, 2003, evaluating the urine EPO test concluded, "the urine EPO test is the only existing test to directly evaluate and prove the EPO abuse of athletes"


    http://www.letsrun.com/2003/epoqa.php
     
  6. megadeth12

    megadeth12 Future ATG Full Member

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    CBS is covering boxing now or are they just trying to get a thousand hits while the issue is hot??? f*cking biased journalists....
     
  7. Farmboxer

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    Testing the blood right after the fight would show anything, but Void does not want the fight.
     
  8. Cormega

    Cormega Quadruple OG Full Member

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    Mmmmmkaaaay:lol:
     
  9. Cormega

    Cormega Quadruple OG Full Member

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    No, a guy could easily take all kinds of illegal **** throughout his training (when he would benefit most from it BTW) and have plenty of time to flush the **** so he can test clean right after the fight. This isn't the first time you've been told, so stop posting bull****.
     
  10. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yea both sides are flip flopping. It gets hard trying to weed through the ****. But yea Pac or roach did initially say a 3-5 day window, let's see if they work on that.
     
  11. Cormega

    Cormega Quadruple OG Full Member

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    The key is RANDOM tests, and since there's so much conflicting info out there they should be doing random blood and urine tests if they want the best available detection. 30 days before fight night allows plenty of time for cheating before a post fight test.
     
  12. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You don't really care now that you know urine is the legal test for EPO huh?
     
  13. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree, if they can get this worked out and give them a 3-5 day window it would be nice.
     
  14. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Once again, the only people defending Pacquiao are the hardcore *******s.

    I am no longer going to be a fan of Pacquiao after this. He has admitted guilt with all the hoopla as far as I am concerend. Total ***** move. I loved Pacquiao as a fighter but after this, I can't support him. Clearly, he has something to hide.

    Major duck move by Pacquiao and Bob Arum is a piece of ****.
     
  15. Cormega

    Cormega Quadruple OG Full Member

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    Yeah, that was news to me. Thanks?