Ayala vs. Duran 154

"as Kirk's trainer told him " you're making him him look stupider than SRL"

Classic observation.

 

I logically respond to your arguments.

I did so in this thread, you just chose to ignore my highly valid points.

I get the impression that you take it somewhat personally when someone disagrees with your arguments.

Then, you tend to attack the person.

This is a classic sign of insecurity.

I don't mind if a poster disagrees with my arguments. In fact, at times, I can learn from others on here.

 

Duran was so hit or miss above 147. Moore Duran whips Ayala. Laing Duran loses to him

 

This is the thing tho Clint, facing Ayala would indeed bring out the best Duran like Cuevas did. He also knew Moore was a scrapper.

Tho motivation might come into it by varying degree's Duran's higher weight inconsistencies just happen to have come against boxers quite often. He definitely had a problem there. Come forward fighters? Right at home.

 

This is a fight Duran would love. He did not do well against movers who didn't let him work his inside magic and tricks, but Ayala would be heaven to Duran. With opponents like Ayala, Duran would win for years and years.

 

If the fight had been in San Antonio in Freeman Coliseum (12,000) or the HemisFair Arena (16,000), the fight would have been massive with brawling in the stands.

 

And Ayala held that left hand at his waist. Or lower sometimes. He cradled it and would rock it back and forth and was he ever wide open for right hands. He just did not face the guys that could exploit it. And he did not jab much with it, just fired off those hooks. A wide punch and bringing that hand back to his waist. There were just too many 154 pounders with terrific right hand leads rising up in that division. And Roberto would see that opening a mile away.

Can you imagine Ayala against Hearns? Mugabi? Jackson? McCallum? Leonard? Even Terry Norris is extremely dangerous. Anyone with a good right hand or sneaky right hand is going to have a huge opening from the opening bell. It wasn't as if he was a twinkletoes in there and could use those legs to compensate some. As stationary target as it gets.

I think that proposed Davey Moore fight is a tossup w/ Ayala. Moore was aggressive and threw nice combos with both hands. That being said, that matchup plays into Ayala better than the other guys. But I think Davey Moore success was about as far as he was going to go.

Some defeats from elite competition was on the horizon. At the end of the day, I guess it could be said his tenure at 154 might have been like a Mark Medal or a Buster Drayton. I'm not even sure he climbs as high as Curry at 154. Come to think of it, that's another good fight. But Ayala was coming up at a time when a minefield was just starting to emerge.

 

I have a feeling that it would be a close, grueling fight and that think that anyone who sees a conclusive consistent winner is underestimating the other guy's ability and heart in this matchup. Both would've trained like demons for this one and I don't think either would back down. If I had to bet on a winner in the fall of 1983, I'd day Duran is more capable of winning tight rounds due to experience and how to look better in and after exchanges and wins a close decision. Betting neither takes a backward step and we all would've been lined up for a rematch.

 

A motivated Duran outboxes,outbrawls then stops Ayala. Duran has too much skill,basically.

 

After the first couple rounds Duran starts to beat the Hell out of him. Duran stops him or makes him quit ala Yuri Boy.