Bönte decided to make the missing padding public

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Kissan, Dec 4, 2012.


  1. CHEF

    CHEF Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    how are we ****ing idiots if Vitali caught it?

    To me... the official from the BDB in the locker room was not paying close enough attention.......

    Vitali was not in Wach's locker room the entire time between wrap arroval and gloves being put on.........this is exactly why the opposing teams are allowed to examine the wraps and gloves before put on and approved.... IMO, the system worked and Vitali did his job!!
     
  2. turbina

    turbina Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Is there actually any evidence to demonstrate the glove was tampered with? In the 20 minutes it is written, that they have the glove alone, that is not a lot of time to do a good job tampering with a glove, so it should be pretty easy to see if padding was removed.

    I assume they still have the glove, no? Given the circumstances? Therefore it should not be difficult to check.

    There has been nothing concrete proving that padding was removed from the glove.

    Everyone is crucifying Wach, with no proof.
     
  3. Hook!

    Hook! Proud member of team G. Full Member

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    :yep
     
  4. CHEF

    CHEF Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I dont know where the BDB is with it. Last I heard, they did have the glove... other then that, sorry, I dont know:good
     
  5. gobblock

    gobblock Boxing Addict banned

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    And see, that isn't causing trouble at all because there was an actual violation. Some people here keep parroting this bull**** about Vitali making problems when the opponent is following the rules--hasn't happened at all to my knowledge.
     
  6. CHEF

    CHEF Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :deal:thumbsup
     
  7. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wow. If this is true, I hope Wach never fights again.

    Glad he hot his face pounded by Wlad.

    If true.
     
  8. jisi

    jisi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wlad choose the GBO for his fights until Vitali comes back.

    The BDB was the organisation Wlad had much trouble with in 2004. IMO it was strange that the Klitschkos took the BDB until Vitali is back. Vitali made his comeback, for this fight the BDB was choosen. And after Wlad uses them too.

    Do you know why?

    The GBO made a good job.

    Here the BDB looks not good again!!!! Like in many other fights (without Klitschko) expecially Prof. Dr. Walter Wagner. This guy is not working as a ring doctor for good reason on Klitschko events.

    But I am confused why Wlad was not continuing working with the GBO.
     
  9. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    I love it how Wach - after being suspected of taking roids for the fight - should get the pass on the glove because there is no proof that his team manipulated the glove but we're supposed to believe it came without padding from the factory? I mean seriously, is this a joke?

    Wach was likely on roids for the fight and someone in his team ****ed with the gloves. This is not just 'a little dangerous' but when seeing these two issues in context this is borderline criminal. Wach or/and his team have to face some real consequences, they can't just get a pass on this.
     
  10. Quincy K

    Quincy K Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    banned?

    this is attempted assault.

    they should file criminal charges.
     
  11. Vergilius

    Vergilius Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :deal
     
  12. Quincy K

    Quincy K Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    "it was only one glove"

    damn, thats pretty stupid. actually, borderline ******.

    "I doubt Wach was involved with it,"

    yeah. he knew nothing about it. the trainer is going to do this without his permission knowing that if they are caught wach might be banned for life. doesnt seem to me that there would be very many career opportunities where wach is goign to make this kind of money with a sub 90 IQ. yeah, im going to do something without wachs knowledge that will end his career.

    "and on top of that the video shows he didnt even have the glove on yet"

    well, what the **** was he going to with the glove? trade it in for another one like a used car?
     
  13. itsa huge bitch

    itsa huge bitch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    so they guy not doing his job properly is to blame and not the cheater??

    wow just wow
     
  14. BlueBottle

    BlueBottle Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Damn, it was totally missing? I first thought Vitale was only noting a soft spot on the padding. I really don't know how the glove could be weighted the same without the padding. Don't they even weight them to verify? Ridiculous!
     
  15. Box84

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    Firstly I will apologise because after I made my post I remembered that it was Wlad and the Chisora fight that I was thinking of. I didn't have time to come back onto ESB to edit my post, plus I didn't know if anyone would take much notice of it anyway.

    That said I will raise two points. Firstly, in my post I was trying, partly to convey my perception of how the brothers act. As gobblock mentioned having Vitali in the opposition's locker room is intimidating. So why do they do it? I don't believe they should be allowed to intimidate an opponent so close to a fight in his own dressing room. They could easily let someone they know and trust do the job. In my opinion it doesn't show them in a good light. Others may disagree.

    Secondly, I find it quite hypocritical that gobblock demands that I post links to two or more well-documented cases to prove my point. Yet he accepts CHEF's claim that Chirsora was violating rules by putting tape directly on the skin with no such demands for proof.

    The fact is most of us, including those that are actually there could never prove even 1% the things that go on in the dressing rooms pre-fight . If that is whats necessary to post on this forum we may as well shut it down now.

    Ultimately we formulate an opinion from what we see, hear and read. I have no need to be biased. I'm willing to listed to both sides of the story. I often wonder how many others on this forum can say the same.

    The truth remains. As a boxing fan I find it hard to trust the Klitschkos. If they don't care about that, fine. But if that's the case then why are we inundated with a constant stream of propaganda trying to persuade us what good role models they are for heaveyweight boxing?