B-hop 'still' wants the retired Calzaghe in Wales.......

All valid points although I do think Hopkins could have forced the stoppage of Pavlik had he really gone for it, he was toying with him in there a bit I think. Meh, we'll see, either way I'm good, I respect a man's right to retire just as long as he's not taking swipes at active fighters.

 

Yeah. That's a tricky one for me. Usually I do, but...

...he is still in good shape, and considering there are still question marks over his resume and legacy, and given that this is essentially the first time in his career where he can literally fight whoever he wants, he goes and retires...:huh

Personally, I never understood his mentality, and this is just another example of his somewhat unusual approach.

 

He might be able to fight who he wants but its a matter of motivation. 20+ years in any field is draining.

 

I'm with you totally but I think the Calzaghe thing has been done to death now and I'm not keen to go there again. Like I said, I did add a proviso which was to not be taking swipes at active fighters which Joe has done to a certain degree. If you're retired, fine, but don't sit in your ivory tower condescending fighters that would give you a real run for your money.

 

This is true.

 

i hope your joking, the fight was awful, truly awful. and it wasnt becuase of joe put it that way

 

Thing is if hopkins 'comes to fight', he would lose by a comfortable margin. He knew this hence he ruined the first fight.

 

How did you score it the most recent time you watched it?

How does that comapre to the first time you seen it?

 

Exactly.

Hopkins is not stupid, you don't beat Joe Calzaghe by taking the fight to him.

 

The only fight I think Joe would seriously consider is Dawson and I thik even that is unlikely. A second Hopkins fight would hold little appeal to the fans and would most likely be a carbon copy of the first. Joe has already taken his money fight when he fought Jones so I don't think the dollar signs will sway him.

 

Ecxactly its all very well debating the in and outs of a potential fight but Joe is Healty , Wealthy , undefeated and no longer has to live the life of a fighter.

Once a guy has made that decision its not right to be constatnyl second guessing it.

Plus Hopkins was a pr*ck in the build up and afterwards ( I like Hop but he just coulbnt take it that he lost ) showing Joe no respect so to **** with him !

 

Joe should avoid the temptation and stay retired and undefeated. How long has it been since a world champ retired undefeated and stayed retired. History will form its own opinions and as far as Joe is concerned that opinion witll be a good one.

He has nothing left to prove. 12 years world champ, regardless of who he fought that is very impressive.

 

The first time I scored it to Hopkins 115-112 I think, can't remember exactly now. When I watched it recently I didn't bother to score it but my overall impression still was that Hopkins won.

Again, this debate has been done to death and I'm not keen to go there again. The fact is, it was a close fight between two modern greats so why not have a rematch?

 

I know this has been done to death but just out of curiosity how did you come up with a score like that? Hopkins spent most of the fight on the backfoot, threw fewer shots, landed no meaningful counter punches and clinched all night.

Not having go, just curious how people could have scoed it for Hopkins.

 

I'm annoyed because I had the exact way I'd scored that fight written down but I appear to have lost it. I definitely scored the first three rounds to Hopkins so that was a four point swing, with the knockdown, straight away. I know I gave him the last too but, as for the rest, I'd be guessing.

I scored for Hopkins' cleaner punching mainly.