No I dont intend to debate it again, I was just curious if your scoring had changed over time. I was there and I scored it to Joe by 2. Watched it on TV and was even more certain. I'm not against seeing it again.
The knockdown has a psychological effect on the scoring. First of all I scored the fight a draw. But then I just watched the fight from round 2 to round 12, just giving Hopkins a 10-8 for round 1, and scored the fight 116-112 Calzaghe. I was surprised that just watching round 2-12 Calzaghe easily won the fight. It was a shame we didn't hear from Hopkins on Bunce boxing hour today, but Bunch started talkiing some bull**** about Calzaghe's hometown (newbridge) and made a crap joke about Calzaghe not fighting there. Hopkins probably hung up the phone wating for the twat.
A larger proportion of people felt Calzaghe won, so I can live with that. It'd be good to see a rematch, but it seems unlikely.
No way will Calzaghe take this fight.He knows Hopkins was robbed last time and that in a rematch he would be beaten out of sight.
Close yes, robbery no. It would have een a sad day for boxing if Hopkins had got the verdict. Clinching, headbutting and running away, painful to watch.
I need to find this fight in full and rewatch it... I didn't score it on the night but it felt close...but that was purely because of the first round knockdown imo...it influenced everyone emotionally and thus influenced their feel of the fight...I felt 50/50 on the night...although that was because te fight was in america and I thought they'd favour their man... From what some say anyone would think Hopkins was just picking Calzaghe off with accurate counters all night but even from watching highlights of the fight online Calzaghe uses his own skills and reflexes to duck and dodge them, and Calzaghe does rock Hopkins with some clean shots as well only for Hopkins to hold straight after literally every time...I wouldn't call that a display of boxing skill...it looked almost desperate... My feeling is that Hopkins cannot beat Calzaghe without the holding...if he doesn't hold he's getting hit with a whole load of fast shots and there's no way the fight would be close then...the only reason the opening rounds were in favour of hopkins was because Calzaghe was cagey and being cautious...I know Hopkins has never been ko'd and Calzaghe didn't stop Jones, although I think he could've, but I could possibly see a stoppage, or atleast a pretty wide ud if hopkins doesn't use his dirty tactics and hold...Calzaghe hated the guy enough to really go for it I think... I do need to rewatch the fight in full though... If anyone know where I can find the fight please pm me...
I shall never make my plasma screen endure such a spectacle, in the worry that it may get screen burn of Hopkins faking low blows forever more.
My missus has recently deleted Hopkin V Calzaghe, Hopkins V Pavlik + JMM V Diaz from my Sky+:fire:fire:fire:fire
Thats harsh...JMM v Diaz was only just on! I shall view that one again a saturday night when the missus is out considering I had the Abraham dates wrong.Zero boxing on the TV Saturday..
Just rewatched the fight and scored it 116-111 in favour of Calzaghe...there were 4 rounds in particular I found very difficult to score, I gave 1 to hopkins and the other 3 to Calzaghe. Calzaghe won 5 rounds quite convincingly, with litle dispute, and Hopkins won two, with the 1st a 10-8 round...then 4 were very close to call...but I felt Calzaghe had more of a case for 3 of them and hopkins 1...
We all know Hopkins is still fighting at a p4p level but Calzaghes in a no win situation if they rematched. He wins....and ppl will just say he beat an old man again.