B hop talks about how he would fight the great mw

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  1. nip102

    nip102 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    AllHipHop.com: Let’s review how you’d matchup with some of the great middleweights of the past. How do you think you’d do let’s say in the 50’s and 60’s against a guy like d**k Tiger?

    Hopkins: I’d fight the same way I do now, but I’d win some and lose some. The history of the division is so vicious that I know I’d have problems. But I definitely would have brought my pound of flesh to the table.

    AllHipHop.com: How about Marvin Hagler?

    Hopkins: Me and Hagler would have ended up in ICU.

    AllHipHop.com: So you’d prefer to go to war instead of trying to outbox him?

    Hopkins: I’d of boxed him at first but eventually I would’ve turned into a war. You can box someone until it gets to point where you have to fight him. Tommy Hearns tried to box him and you see what happened to him. Sometimes you got to stay in there, buckle down, and swing for the fences. I’d have to pull this one out by boxing and fighting in certain spots. It would be a bloodbath.



    AllHipHop.com: Next would be Sugar Ray Robinson.

    Hopkins: Hell of a fight. Fight that I easily could lose, man. And it would be very hard to win.





    AllHipHop.com: Let’s go way back. You mentioned earlier wanting to be the 3rd middleweight in history to win a heavyweight belt. Bob Fitzsimmons was the first to do it in 1896. In looking at that footage do you feel those guys couldn’t compete today because of advances in training and fighters being bigger?

    Hopkins: No, I think the fighters of yesteryear are way better than the fighters today. There are some exceptional fighters like me, Mayweather, Jones, and Pacquiao. Shane [Mosley], Oscar [De La Hoya], and Sugar Ray Leonard are some others. But we’re dealing with a sport where there are thousands of fighters. Those guys went 15 rounds, they didn’t have the vitamins, advanced training methods; they were way tougher men than boxers today, no respect. I say that all the time.

    AllHipHop.com: One last great middleweight I want to throw you way is Carlos Monzon.



    Hopkins: I’d love Carlos Monzon, a tall, straight up fighter. I’d have broken him down to the body and knocked him out. I see myself getting Carlos Monzon based on breaking him down with my vicious body attack, and taking him out of there with my speed and accuracy. [It would be] the left hook to the liver like I hit Oscar with.

    http://allhiphop.com/stories/lifestylefashion/archive/2010/03/29/22156909.aspx
    no way would he break monzon down
     
  2. Jaws

    Jaws Active Member Full Member

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    Hearns did not try to box Hagler.
     
  3. enquirer

    enquirer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bernard was crying like a baby and cheating for a rest against joe C.
    Hopkins is just getting cheap publicity for himself....
     
  4. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He made some good arguments there, especially about the old-timers.
     
  5. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    Looks like the "Hopkins admitted he would lose to Monzon" myth is going down...

    Interesting stuff.
     
  6. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's not myth because he said it previously.

    “Sugar Ray Robinson at 147 pounds was close to perfect,” Hopkins posits. “But at middleweight, he was beatable. I would have fought Ray Robinson in close and not given him room to do his thing. He’d make me pay a physical price. But at middleweight, I think I’d wear him down and win. Me and Marvin Hagler
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    would have been a war. We’d both be in the hospital afterward with straws in our mouth. We’d destroy each other. I wouldn’t run from Marvin. My game-plan would be, rough him up, box, rough him up, box. You wouldn’t use judges for that fight. You’d go by the doctors’ reports. Whichever one of us is damaged less gets the win. Carlos Monzon? I could lose that fight. Monzon was tall, rangy, did everything right. I see myself losing that fight more than winning it. I ain’t saying I’m number one, but I’m one of the best middleweights of all time. My legacy is what it is. If you want to be great, then beat Bernard Hopkins.”

    http://www.secondsout.com/columns/thomas-hauser/bernard-hopkins-history-in-the-making

    As is usual, people change their mind over time though and don't always keep the same opinion.

    I can't see Hopkins breaking down Monzon to the body, Monzon seemed to withstand Briscoe's body assault very well.
     
  7. Son of Gaul

    Son of Gaul Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's the first thing I thought when I read it.
     
  8. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    I'm not saying he didn't say it; it came up recently in this thread:

    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=207809

    But it certainly undermines that - people were basically using that as a basis to pick Monzon over Hopkins (!) with little other support. He was obviously in two minds.
     
  9. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    MOst fighters just say what they want the journos to hear.

    Duran would change who was his toughest opponent in nearly interview depending on the nationality of the interviewer.
     
  10. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree I wouldn't base my pick strictly on a fighter saying that he could or could not win. I can't see Hopkins breaking down Monzon to the body but Hopkins is actually taller than Monzon, so I disagree with both of his picks.
     
  11. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hopkins fans in here too...buddy. Good interview.
    Peace.
     
  12. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Watch the fight again. He did. After he broke his right hand in the first he tried to box Hagler but wasn´t able to, Hagler kept it a war and knocked him out. True story.
     
  13. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In the 2nd round he did.He just couldn't keep MMH off of him.
     
  14. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    But apparently he tried to box because he broke his right hand in the first stanza, Emmanuel Steward said this on a vid i have called 'the 12 greatest rounds of boxing', apparently Hearns didn't want to discredit Hagler and kept it quiet. He says you can see it's true because as the bout progressed Hearns was clubbing the right instead of shooting it down the pipe.

    Not making an excuse for Tommy here, i think Hagler would win anyway. Just throwing that in there.

    My laptops about to die of no battery, goodnight.
     
  15. natonic

    natonic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hopkins would box Hagler. A war? I honestly can't think of Hopkins being in a war. The first Echols fight is the closest I can think of. If boxing Hagler failed, he'd try to frustrate him with the righthand, headbutt, clutch combination. I'd go with Hagler but could see Hopkins possibly getting in Hagler's head and squeeking it out.
    Hopkins stating he'd break Monzon down to the body (like he did against Oscar) is laughable.