Baby Jake Matlala whoopin Michael Carbajal's ass

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  1. GPater11093

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    Sorry missed that bit, I like it how you say but a points win for Perez.
     
  2. Flea Man

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    Well, as Lopez was never stopped, and the one time I've seen him down (Alvarez 1) he didn't seem too flustered it may be unfair to pick him to get stopped.

    But at Fly, even accoutning for moving up a prime straw Lopez a few lbs I see Perez being too strong. I think he can put Lopez down and keep him down. Would be a competitive fight though, and with Lopez's skillset and attributes he can hang with ATG Flys. Just not sure if he can beat this one.:good
     
  3. Sweet Pea

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    Perez was a bit too small to really impose any of the physical advantages on Lopez you'd have seen from most Flyweights. Not to mention Lopez was very well suited to the weight himself, being a very large Minimumweight. That's not to say Perez couldn't have won, but if he did I strongly doubt it would've been by stoppage. He may have been just too small, period. He wasn't really the swarmer or all out pressure fighter some make him out to be, and to get in on Lopez that would be key.

    I could see him beating Chang due to styles, but just as much I could see him losing to Lopez, even if I'd favor Chang over Lopez.
     
  4. Sweet Pea

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    You're entitled to your opinion about Chiquita, but you're completely off the mark regarding Perez. I don't see any similarities aside from the fact that they were both Latino Flyweights.
     
  5. Flea Man

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    Perez was not a swarmer no, but he had fast upper body movement that he could use to slip under Lopez's jab and let his shots off IMO
     
  6. Sweet Pea

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    True, he had quick feet and used very good angle movements when in close range as well. However, against a fighter like Lopez, who'd be looking to use his reach and footwork to keep the fight at optimal range, I tend to think he'd come up short more often than not with his hooks. I could see him hurting Lopez at some point in the fight, and giving him a hell of a go with all the tools he possesses. As much as I hate to do it though, I'd have to favor Lopez. It's just the way I see the fight playing out in my head if I'm being honest. A 6 inch height and reach advantage for a Flyweight is very substantial, especially for someone like Lopez who had such quality footwork and controlled the range so well. When you throw in his own punching power, accuracy, and textbook combinations, it's hard to see Perez getting the better of the two. For me anyway.
     
  7. Flea Man

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    Good post. You're a guy who can see both sides, we'll leave it there:good
     
  8. anarci

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    Hey flea that must be the reason you think that Perez would stop Lopez:rasta:lol: If you put that bomb as weed down you would be able to analyze this fight clearly and see that Lopez would beat Perez:yep Say :nonoto drugs it affects your ability to Judge fighters:lol:


    Na but seriously the footage ive seen of Perez i have no doubt that Lopez would find him, he didnt look to elusive to me, at least not for such an accurate sharp shooter like Lopez. I do think his power was impressive though.

    Where could i catch more footage of him? Since it sounds like u are so familiar with him.Id like to check him out more To be more accurate in my analogy of him. Ive heard and read about him before and know hes considered arguably the greatest fly by many along with Wilde and Canto but I only found one of his fights on you tube.
     
  9. Flea Man

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    Best guy to ask is a poster called Raging Bull, the best man in the World for footage, reasonable as well:good

    And no, weed helps me to analyse; just doesn't help me to train:lol:

    And no, Perez isn't entirely elusive, but he was tough and would cause Lopez to back up more than anyone. Put it this way, he was twice the fighter that Alvarez was IMO.
     
  10. Sweet Pea

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    Perez actually looked quite elusive at times to me. He rolled very well after his hooks especially.

    As for weed, it helped my analytical abilities about 3 fold when I watched fights high. I've recently stopped for other reasons, though.
     
  11. anarci

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    Well like i told Flea, if you guys no a link let me check it out, cause from what i saw he resembles Chiquita in Ht,In and out style and Power. I didnt say exactly i just said resemblence in style, and ive always thought that Lopez would pick a style like that apart.
     
  12. Flea Man

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    BOLD: No doubt. But as Anarci hasn't seen much of him, don't want to make him out to be a Canto-esque figure. Perez was a boxer-puncher, albeit one with odd dimensions and that weird horse trot he used to skip in and out of range.

    LINED: No doubt. I NEED to stop, sending me round the bend and the only people I talk to out of work is on here. Which isn't actually talking, and very unsociable (in the real World)
     
  13. anarci

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    I know that was a dig to me Flea,but I wouldnt have a problem saying that Perez would beat Lopez if i thought he could. Ive always thought that Lopez should stay away from Mark Johnson.
    Even though i think Lopez would have beat Chang i think that sylistically it would be a tough fight for Lopez tougher for him than Perez.
     
  14. Flea Man

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    I've replied Anarci,

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    I believe, may have to part with some currency, but as I say, he's very reasonable and has pretty much anything that has been filmed:good

    I think thats his email address.
     
  15. anarci

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    :good:yep