Baby Jake Matlala whoopin Michael Carbajal's ass

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Sweet Pea, Jan 5, 2010.


  1. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    it was not a dig at you Anarci, I said I'd leave it out the sly comments and I will. Me and Pea will debate ourselves to a standstill, it's one of those kind of stylistic matchups:good

    Also, I've verified that email address, I'd got it a bit wrong :good
     
  2. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    His size (or lack of height) helped his strength as he had a lower base of gravity. He was incredibly strong for a Flyweight and incredibly quick.

    As for swarming, do you not think Perez's quick movements would get him inside of Lopez? He got inside Kingpetch in the first fight when he showed glimpses of his old self.

    Also Perez was a great inside fighter and could keep the fight in there with his change of angles. His body punching was excellant and surely this would slow Lopez down and let Perez get inside.

    Perez was elusive that was which surprised me first time I watched him.

    Also you serious? How does it help your anaylitical skills?
     
  3. Flea Man

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    Greg, smoking weed automatically makes you more engrossed with what you are doing.

    it doesn't make you lose your quality control either. A misconception is that you think everything is brilliant. That's ecstacy IMO. Weed makes you see things exactly as it is, without the bull****. Being a cynic anyway it was a perfect drug for me.

    I'm speaking in the past tense because I'm trying to give up :good

    I find I concentrate more on it. I enamour myself with my subject and really look into it deep.
     
  4. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    They should give us weed at school :lol:

    Nah, seriously it is bad stuff would never touch it myself seen what it can do.
     
  5. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    He was definitely quick, and definitely strong. I don't think he was stronger than Alvarez though, and I don't think he was especially quick by Flyweight standards. That's not to say he was at all lacking in either regard, just that I don't think he was too far out of the norm for a Flyweight aside from his height, which is more of a slight when facing taller fighters, at least ones with the speed and skills of Lopez.

    Kingpetch was quite slow for a Flyweight though. A very tidy technician and a fine out-boxer, but not in Lopez's class IMO. Not nearly as varied in his attack, as quick on his feet, or even as powerful IMO.

    It'd be a lot more difficult to keep the fight on the inside against Lopez, that was my point. Lopez wouldn't oblige to an in-fight, and his footwork would make it a lot more difficult to force one than against someone like Kingpetch. I don't think Lopez would've had an easy time with him at all, I just think his physical atttributes compliment his technical skills enough that he would be able to dictate the range more often than not against Perez. I could be wrong. If more footage was available of Perez maybe I'd be singing a different tune. Just basing it off of what I've seen, and I've been very impressed with Perez's skills.

    As Flea said, it just makes it a lot easier to become engrosses with what you're watching. You can sit and watch in wonderment at the subtle skills and nuances of a fighter's game a lot easier, especially those who on first glance don't seem to have an aesthetically pleasing style. Just makes it a lot more enjoyable and clear. Watching fights was one of my favorite things to do when I got high.

    It's definitely the best drug to do if you have a sound mind, which I did most of the time. Otherwise it can be a mind****, which is why I've recently quit.
     
  6. Flea Man

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    As a smoker for nearly ten years I can safely say I wish I was a kid again. As much fun as I have had with the stuff, as long as I have lived with it........I wouldn't smoke it if I had the choice to turn back the clock.

    Even though I am far more socially aware guy then I probably would've been without it. It also helped form my perception of the media. Smoking dope just helps you cut through the bull**** IMO. It's like a natural cynacism, heigthened perception and all that ****. But as I sit here typing my ass off wishing I had a joint in hand, I realise how frustrating the stuff can be.
     
  7. Flea Man

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    This x1000:lol::good
     
  8. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    I have never seen Alvarez so I cant comment but Perez is one of the strongest Flyweights I have seen. I thought he wasnt speedy for a Flyweight but he was above average and had a very good turn of pace. Also being small is only a disadvantage if you stay on the outside when you get on the inside, especailly against Lopez, you have alot of advantages. Also Perez's lack of height actually is a good advantage defensivly for him as he is a tiny target for Lopez and it is harder for Lopez to punch down than for Perez to punch up.

    Agreed, although he was a better inside fighter IMO, Lopez is better overall.

    Fair enough you can see the problems perez poses and the problems Lopez pose Perez, I just disagree in the strength of each others problems (if that amkes sense)

    I do that without smoking weed. The classic forum has turned into a ****ing advert for weed now.