Back To The Primitive: Boxing In Its Purest Form Is Two Gladiators Going To War.

Hit and not get hit is not some type of rule, it's an adage, one which describes boxing in the most simple, purest way.

 

Much of what's called running isn't running.

To wit: Floyd Mayweather Jr., Joan Guzman, Cory Spinks, Erislandy Lara, Ivan Calderon - none of them were 'runners'. Frequently wore the 'runner' tag, but only because some nitwits can't appreciate the nuances of movement-based styles. Movement toward a productive end in a boxing match (or even in a street fight) to both facilitate defense and set up opportunities for offense - isn't running.


Now, if you watch Andre Dirrell vs. Curtis Stevens - that was running. If you watch Julio Ler vs. Jorge Arce - that was running.

Watch those, and then watch any Mayweather/Spinks/Guzman/Lara/Calderon fight. You should be able to clearly tell a marked difference between what Dirrell & Ler did and what the above boxers (not runners, boxers) do.

If you can't, there is no helping you. :conf


Two lunkheads standing there bashing each other about the head isn't the least bit interesting or impressive. Any form of contest, any human endeavor you can think of, becomes enhanced (sweetened, even) by adding skill. A smaller guy using angles, speed, and smarts to beat up a much bigger guy is far more inspiring than watching two guys the same exact size just whack away until one keels over.

Think about playing video games with your friends. If one kid just goes spastic and mashes buttons, performing combos without even realizing what he's doing, and wins a match or two - is anybody really blown away? No. If someone comes in and makes slick precise motions with their fingers dancing around the pad and shuts out every other kid, running table on the whole neighborhood - whoa. That's legendary.

SKILL MATTERS. In boxing, skill most often involves movement.

 

Sounds like a lot of Neanderthal BS to me. It's like you got a problem with evolution. Boxing is the sweet science and that don't mean it's all defense. It's offense and defense blended together and when a fighter can flow from one to the other flawlessly and can deliver his ****nal of punches with no or minimal damage to himself he or she is demonstrating the sweetness in the science of boxing. When boxing is done right, it's sweet. When you see a fighter slip a punch and follow with a four punch combo (all technically sound) and knock his opponent out. What do you say, Dam! that was sweet. It's old school terminology but that's where it comes from. The youngsters might say something else but it means the same thing.

 

Brilliantly put, if you don't like the skill aspect of the sport than you're really not a fan of boxing, you just like to see guys fight.

And better alternatives already exist in that case to appease you namely MMA and BKB.

 

Great a.nalogy. In most fighting games, you choose characters based on intelligence, strength or agility. Manny is more of a strength based character who was kited by the extremely agile Floyd. Manny's punches may land harder but they will be far and few between against an opponent like Floyd. Floyd will kite that mudafvckr all day!

(I know a lot about gaming because I'm in a gaming startup)

 

Miguel Vazquez laughs at this thread

 

Get serious....atsch

 

Nice post, I think you hit a nerve by addressing the phrase "hit and don't get hit", there's something really deceiving about it when it's used to summarize boxing.

 

:deal

 

I agree that movement is a skill. I appreciate movement a lot if it's accompanied with the intent to hurt your opponent.

Movement for the sake of moving (to avoid damage) without the intent to dish out damage makes you a flawed and one sided boxer.

Running is codeword for avoiding damage and at the same time not looking to really dish it out.

Yes everybody wants to dish it out. But to dish it out you put yourself in more danger of having to take it.

You can't just avoid taking it. You also have to dish it.

 

You misinterpret the OP.

The OP is not against movement. He is against those who move to avoid taking damage and the same time compromise their own ability to dish it out.

I'm pretty sure this thread was inspired by May-Pac. In that fight you had one man who avoided taking damage brilliantly. A consequence was that he was so concerned with that singular goal that he failed to address the other half of pro boxing. Which is to deliver damage.

 

If you're great at one particular style, stick to it. Just don't expect to gain fans if it involves running most of the time, winning doesn't exactly equate to gaining fans or respect. If it's against a bigger, stronger, very dangerous adversary, then that's understandable. But if it's against an overmatched opponent where the fight is just going to drag on, the sweet science becomes bittersweet.

 

The first official boxing competitions were organized in Ancient Greece.

 

dupe

 

You know it's about Mayweather. It's CST80!

He delivered damage. Have you not heard Pac reaggravated his shoulder? That was from hitting air. Try swinging a bat many times as hard as you can without hitting the ball. It hurts.