Back-to-the-ropes beasts

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  1. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Didn't Nelson have malaria or something? And I know he destroyed Fenech in the rematch on Jeff's home turf to make it very plausible that his shortcomings in the first matchup were more health-related than Fenech-related.
     
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  2. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That was always the story I heard, but there are frequent stories after a fight...so I am not sure. I was and am a huge Nelson fan, he is perhaps my favorite non philly fighter. I remember watching this live on the undercard of Tyson -Ruddock I believe. I think Jeffs relentless pressure surprised Nelson either way.

    I believe Jeff struggled with his hands during the rematch, so I guess there could be a counter reason for Jeff losing the rematch.

    i think Jeff would always give Nelson a tough night at their best.
     
  3. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Seems a little harsh and inaccurate to call him low skilled. Perhaps limited or even one dimensional? But not sure I would go there either.

    Saw him live at the civic center in Philly when he fought Robert Davis on 80 or 81. Definitely not unskilled, but I don't believe unskilled guys become number one contenders. His limitations would always keep him from rising to the top though.

    His brother Anthony fought that night to. Perhaps more talented than Frank. Loved watching them fight
     
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  4. JackSilver

    JackSilver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Worked against Foreman. Not so well against Holmes.
     
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  5. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Frank was a low skilled middleweight NOT unskilled. As he fought better opposition his lack of defense stuck out like a sore thumb.
     
  6. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Against Holmes Ali was a shot fighter who never should have been allowed to fight anyone that night. Against Foreman years earlier Ali was post prime but still a magnificent fighter
     
  7. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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  8. juppity

    juppity Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Chris Byrd similar scenario. Byrd went undefeated in first 26 fights using the strategy of
    fighting off the ropes before running into a tank in Ibeaubuchi. He wisely changed this
    strategy after this fight and was successful against another equally dangerous tank in
    David Tua.
     
  9. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It was fun. I saw Hamshox Parker, Saad, Braxton, Gelermino and others during my life in the region in the early 80s
    and midtolate 70s. FLETCHER WAS MY FAVORITE along with Hamsho. To me greatness is with the styles and excitement of a fighter. Give me Fletcher, Hamshox LoCicero, Saad and their like every time over a Mayweather, Whitaker, Davis, or Chandler any day and 2 Xs on Sportworld or CBS Sports Spectacular on Saturday and Sunday
     
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  10. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I believe Victor Galindez is the poster boy for this thread.
     
  11. BundiniBlack

    BundiniBlack Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Roy Jones was the master
     
  12. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How good was Benetiz when backed to the ropes?

    Rewatch the Hearns fight. The Hit-Man's game plan was to not engage Wilfred on the ropes at all. That's Manny Stewart's instruction. You can see numerous times when The Bible of Boxing voluntarily sets up along the ropes, setting his trap, and Hearns just backs off to the middle of the ring and waits for Wilfred to come to him -- like, "Oh, no way am I going to even attempt to fight you there."

    Magnificence.
     
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  13. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Saved me looking for the fight.

    Many think Fenech was 'robbed'... Like Benn/EubankII, watch it without commentary and your 'boxing brain' and a draw was fair.

    And a classic example of fighting with your back on the ropes.
     
  14. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    You beat me to the punch Clinton...it was Galindez indeed.
     
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  15. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Once again we are reviewing those 15 good-great Lt. Heavies of the 70's, early 80's, with Galindez fighting most of them, by changing his style once he became more "cut-prone".
     
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