Bad decisions are destroying the credibility of impartiability

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  1. OrishamanNow

    OrishamanNow Member Full Member

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    Bad decisions, we always have them in boxing, yet in the last 5 years or so it seems to be an increase in very poor decisions in boxing....it coincides with the surge of PBC and other boxing platforms...
    -Ward v Kovalev I
    -Canelo v GGG I & II
    ... and the latest Harrison v Charlo.... the judges seem to be the same...along with some new blood perhaps not ready for prime time....

    Your thoughts...
     
  2. OrishamanNow

    OrishamanNow Member Full Member

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    Ylist you were decision you can remember....
     
  3. bruce_keyes

    bruce_keyes Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yep agree 100%. Just today, watched Dmitry Kudryashov vs. Vaclav Pejsar. Kudryashov virtually lost every round, and got a gift split decision. ABSURD. Even the Russian commentators (Nikolai Valuev being one of them) was SHOCKED lol
     
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  4. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    I think there has always been plenty of bad decisions, but with access to internet we see more fights today than any generations of fans in the past.
    Plus the golden era has countless tales of dives.
    35 years ago for me, my televised bouts were based on reading Ring magazine fight results.
     
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  5. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    That was when the Ring was The Bible of Boxing NOT the Oscar/GBP rag
     
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  6. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Were you, by any chance, rooting for GGG, Kovalev, and Harrison? If so, FOH.
     
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  7. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    Yup! I used to argue my butt off based on articles in a magazine.

    What!?:mad: Oh, hell naw that aint how it went down! I got the 1982 issue page 34, you got yo' buss pass, I got it at the crib I'll show You!:argue:



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    Different era now!
     
  8. titanic

    titanic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It may also have to do with the corrupt promoters who slips-in secret "bonus check" under the table of the Judges ....
     
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    22JM Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Derverchenko vs ggg, poor Derverchenko.
     
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  10. Ilesey

    Ilesey ~ Full Member

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    Is this the decision whereby boxers wear different gloves. If so, then yes. If not, well, frankly it isn’t worth debating.

    Scoring anomalies come and go as do poor choices of ring attire. It happens. I don’t like it but in all honesty I still get up and have my three weetabix - this is how little it impacts on my actual day.
     
  11. OrishamanNow

    OrishamanNow Member Full Member

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    It might be... but these substantially wrong scoring is more evident now that in other eras...perhaps MMH might have a different opinion!
     
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  12. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree with you about the Wilder Fury draw and the scoring in Harrison Charlo 2, but you really need to rewatch Canelo vs GGG 1 and 2. In the first bout Canelo was schooling GGG for the first 4 and a half rounds, GGG made a mini-comeback in rounds 5-9 but then Canelo finished strong in the final 3 rounds. It was a close bout but Canelo landed the cleaner harder punches, he was making GGG miss, and was really putting on a clinic for the majority of the bout. I get the argument that GGG won due to being more active and throwing more punches, but that was a very close bout and far more debatable in terms of scoring than Wilder Fury or Harrison Charlo 2. Wilder and Charlo barely won a round in each of these bouts outside of the knockdown rounds, whereas Canelo in the first bout with GGG came out and was making GGG look like an amateur in there, Canelo won the first 3 or 4 rounds easy before GGG started getting into the bout. And in the 2nd GGG match, Canelo built a commanding lead over the first 8 rounds, GGG came back in the 10th but he was well behind at that point.

    So lets not confuse Canelo GGG where Canelo was the far more effective puncher and was the guy landing the vast majority of clean punches with the ridiculous scoring of Wilder Fury or Harrison Charlo 2.
     
  13. OrishamanNow

    OrishamanNow Member Full Member

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    I will watch again... but the times I have watched with the comments off... I still got GGG winning both by a narrow margin!
     
  14. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Most boxing fans are just idiots who don’t really know how to score a fight:

    msny are influenced by commentary and regurgitate whatever paulie or whoever say and take it as gospel.

    many are biased and already know who they are picking before the fight and score by what they want/hope to see.

    people rarely say the guy they rooted for got a gift.

    Many others are drunk or drinking or talking with friends and have no clue..:

    there are a handful of bad decisions etc. but largely exaggerated
     
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  15. kirk

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    Same as always imo. Which shouldn't take away from the point of how heinously, disgustingly corrupt this sport is.
     
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