Bad(expected)News For The Cobra

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by TheUzi, Aug 12, 2010.


  1. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    To quote Larry Merchant.....

    ''This fight might knock out both fighters''

    It's got Bowe vs Holyfield III written all over it :deal
     
  2. skel1983

    skel1983 Guest

    Also Dirrell and Taylor have both said Abraham hits harder which he does.
     
  3. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    I think that there are going to be one or two embarrassed individuals here on the3rd October
     
  4. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Have you got Froch by KO?

    :bbb
     
  5. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Frochy is a hurtful puncher rather than a massive one IMO, his awkwardness an lead people onto his shots though,and then they can become damaging.

    To the poster who said Froch 'didn't put a dent' in any of the top opposition he faced, he definitely managed to dissuade Pascal a few times, had Dirrell shitting a brick for most of the fight, and clearly rocked Kessler on a few occassions.

    His arms just seem really heavy for him; his right uppercut is, at times, slapstick. He took **** knows how many shots to decimate Taylor, but clearly hurt him. I was more impressed with Froch's attempt rather than his finishing ability in that fight, it was no doubt an astonishing victory in retrospect, Pascal was still, 'that guy from the Froch fight' and hadn't built up this far yet (and tomorrow he will lose for the first time since Frochy) and Froch was an exciting, if limited fighter. Many doubted he could boss the fight with his awkwardness and nice angled jab as he did in the late rounds of the Pascal fight.

    And he couldn't:lol: But he pulled it put of his ass. Pavlik damaged Taylor, but Frochy put him away and Abraham buried him. I really hope Jermain never fights again, he's not completely unlikeable.

    I like King Arthur, but as always, I am pulling for Froch big time in this one. I felt he gave a good account of himself in the Kessler fight, considering I thought Kessler had a pretty good stylistic advantage in terms of his application, and the thought that if Kessler wasn't shot to bits and Ward really had just taken him right out of his game, that Kessler would cause Froch mire problems than vice versa.

    But here I think Froch lacks the handspeed and snap required to breach Abrahams guard too often. He isn't a massive puncher so will struggle to put Arthur away without taking hits back, because, and here's the big thing:

    Carl has no defence. He sometimes leaves his chin so high he gets puches in the throat :yep Arthur will not find it hard to get his shots off IMO, and with a handspeed and defensive advantage, it will be Froch taking most of the hits.

    I was really convinced that Dirrell was a complete hypejob (turns out he's a reluctant purveyor of 'The Sweet Science') and that, seeing as Oganov took a shellacking from him and Dirrell stayed in the pocket and then gassed after the first round, looking sloppy as ****, that a pumped up Froch was going to take him out. I was wrong in a BIG WAY. I've already explained why Kessler was a bad matchup for Froch, and now Abraham. He got a hard draw, considering he coulda battered Green :lol:
     
  6. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Froch's handspeed and movement really is comically bad. Watching him throw punches from a mile out is embarrassing at times.
     
  7. Flea Man

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    Ice, I'd be absolutely made up to be proven wrong. The joy would far outweigh any sore ego due to making a **** analysis.


    As always: WAR FROCH!!!! :bbb
     
  8. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    It's my birthday. What a treat. But I'm fairly sure of my pick.
     
  9. anjawnaymiz

    anjawnaymiz Can we get Ivan Dychko some momentum Full Member

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    ive been saying all along abraham is all wrong for froch, both have great chins, powerful, abrahams defence seems basic but effective whereas froch is wide open once he finds his groove, BUT it'll be abrahams straighter punches that'll find the target first as frochs punches seem very wide and loopy. abraham will be the first man to stop froch.

    i hope you can prove us wrong carl.
     
  10. The Blackout

    The Blackout Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :lol:

    I have to agree. I've only really noticed how bad it is, since he's stepped up from domestic level. Abraham won't be moving much, so one or two of Froch's classic 'swingers' will land for sure.
     
  11. portside

    portside Boxing Addict Full Member

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    abrahams had it cozy in germany, covering up tight, doing little work while the opponents going flat out knowing he needs a slaughter to draw, then when there dog tired he goes for the kill knowing full well if he fails, he still gets the decision, froch hasen't screamed for neutral territory for the sake of it, them germans have no shame when it comes to a **** decision, froch sparks him around the halfway mark, simply because when he needs to fight he's wide open to counters.
     
  12. harvinmagler

    harvinmagler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    agree about decisions in germany, sylvester vs karmazin was the tip of the iceberg for me, ludicrous.
     
  13. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    Its a possibility but I don't think so...Even though Froch can be an idle ******* at times there is no way that Arthur outworks him for the points win. AA is very basic so I don't see him unlocking a world class fighter using guile or skills (he doesn't posses them), he comes alive in the last third taking advantage of the opposition slowing down allowing him to launch fairly reckless attacks... Froch has the armory and physical advantages to negate these attacks rendering AA impotent. As long as Froch doesn't go toe to toe I can only see a wide UD for Carl...King Arthur is being massively overrated on here.
     
  14. TheUzi

    TheUzi MISSION INCOMPLETE Full Member

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    Whats in his armory?

    Not being wide but I dont understand what Froch has which will help him to avoid soaking up bombs? Its Arthur who at least has a defence.

    Your analysis above would make more sense if you swapped round the names of Athur and Froch IMO
     
  15. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    Of course everything is subjective, but I honestly think that if you are hanging out for an Abraham win you are going to be disappointed. :thumbsup