Bad Moments from Great Boxers

Problem is Galento missed with that punch most of the time, by far, when he tried it. And missed ridiculously, missing by long distance, losing balance, leaving himself totally open for a counter. He is totally/wholy depending on luck, not on skills or work of mind.

 

I said I don't want to continue that debate, but you have to consider what era he got to the top of. The writers literally couldn't believe such a thing could happen that Baer and Galento were the only contenders left for Louis to defend against. The men Galento defeated weren't thought to be much either by contemporary writers. It was Louis at the top and the rest being third-raters and fourth-raters at best.

 

Nonsense. You're the only one here who scrambles to find other boxers' most awkward looking moments to counteract footage of guys like Galento, Baer, and Marciano being characteristically crude. You don't think I could find even worse clips of Baer or Galento to post if that was my goal?

 

First, it's hard to see everything that's going on in that Tyson clip. Would you mind posting a more extended version, perhaps the real time one?

Second, even from what we can see, the form of Tyson's punch is very different than Galento's. Do you really not see why a fighter would be much, much better off punching the way Tyson punches rather than the way Galento does in his clip? If so, let me explain briefly.

Galento's version isn't just unorthodox-- it is objectively inferior and violates some of the fundamental principles of effective boxing. It is completely telegraphed, from a far distance, and comes in at a wide angle during which time he is completely exposed. This leaves the puncher completely exposed to straight counterpunches, it's easy to defend through lateral movement (which adds the risk that the puncher will be caught out of position and off balance), and takes much of the force out of the punch. I have no idea what was going through Louis' mind when he ate that punch but I have no doubt that most modern fighters who know how to box would have avoided it.

Tyson's punch bears some of the same risks, but delivered with a much tighter trajectory and thrown from a much closer distance and more advantageous punching angle, it is much harder to counter. His opponent had the right idea in countering with his jab, but left his right way too low and didn't adjust to Tyson's foot movement (giving Tyson a much better punching angle) so he paid the price.

 

You're an idiot. That's just Marciano being Marciano and Moore being Moore.

 

What on earth are you on about? Did you not read my post? Didn't I say, that while I don't agree with Burt that Louis would flatten Ali, I respect his opinion and don't claim that mine is more "right" than his? How is that being hypocritical?

 

Always forget that it's a complete waste trying to talk technique with clowns like you who are determined to remain blissfully ignorant about it. Well, I tried. Hopefully others got something out of it.

 

Greatness is rarely defined by skill tbf


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Ali made amateur mistakes. It depends on how little you make them and how well you hide them as Ali shown


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