Bad performances/mistakes by a corner/cutman?

Very funny ha ha I was right behind the CSAC Insp Louhis when he supposedly passed those wraps

 

Agree 100% Pat it was a criminal disgrace & a good fighters career & good name were tarnished

 

Hey Pat, It sounds like your trolling. If you dont know all the details then look it up. Just enter the biggest cheater in boxing into Google and Antonion Margarito will show.

 

Well if you were really there then my professional advice to you is to not self incriminate yourself.
As far as we know you were the one who slipped the gauze with plaster of paris into Margaritos wrap.

 

I'm not trolling, I did not know what the controversy was. I read Wikipedia just now and if their article is right, it's hard to believe that a boxing commission would allow whoever was doing the hand wrapping to use a "wet pad." I've wrapped hands in 7-8 states, and there has always been an inspector watching everything and after the hands are wrapped, the inspector initials the hand in a way where the wrap can not be altered without disturbing the initials. In addition, if the fighter needs to go to the bathroom or anywhere else, the inspector goes with him and watches to make sure nothing about the wrap is changed. Then the inspector watches you glove the fighter, but before he does, he does a "feel" test on the wrap to make certain that it is just tape and gauze. He then shows you exactly how he wants the tape on the glove, this varies, sometimes they want duct tape, sometimes adhesive tape but they show you exactly where they want you to start and stop with the tape.

The states might vary a little in their rules for hand wrapping but they have regulations on the amount of gauze you can use, and how close the tape can be placed to the knuckles, etc. With all of the regulations, I'd be extremely surprised if an inspector allowed someone to use a "wet pad" on the knuckles. Anything can happen, but when it comes to hand wraps if something illegal happened, it's hard to believe the boxing commission was not involved. I can't imagine successfully getting a "wet pad" past an inspector. I think that would raise a "red flag."

 

I'm not going to spend time to discredit your experience wrapping hands since I do not know you. What I will point out as a flaw in your story though, is "A wet wrap" as you said is not the science of how Plaster of Paris works. There is no wet wrap ever at any given time in order for Plaster of Paris to work. This is a powder that is dusted onto a gauze and with the natural sweat of the boxers fist activates the plaster usually after the 3rd round.

 

If you are going to quote me, get it right, I didn't say "wet wrap", my post mentioned "wet pad" and that was taken from the article. A pad is used over the knuckles and if a wet one was used it would be obvious to everyone present. After the pad is in place, thin pieces of gauze or tape (depends on the wrapper) are attached inside the hand and brought over the pad to hold it in place, if the pad was wet it would be very apparent when the tape or gauze was tightened. As mentioned in my first post, it could happen, but the boxing commission would be complicit if it did.

I don't know anything about Plaster of Paris, and I have never heard anybody talk about using it in gauze while wrapping hands. I have no idea if would work, how it would work, etc. You make it sound like it is an exact science, that the plaster will harden after the 3rd round, etc. I've never even heard it discussed, where did you get your information?

This is the article I read about the hand wrapping. According to the article, Margarito's wraps were alleged to contain "wet pads." If that is true, the problem is the boxing commission. Unless you believe that California and Nevada do not have inspectors present while the hands are wrapped, the only way to get a "wet pad" past the inspector is to either have an incompetent inspector or to bribe someone. Either way that would be the commission's fault.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_Margarito
Before Margarito vs. Mosley, Mosley's trainer, Naazim Richardson, observed that Margarito had a pasty white substance in his handwraps.[43] One doctor described this material as plaster hidden in the wrapped hands of Margarito, leading to accusations that he may have been trying to cheat. At Richardson's insistence, California State Inspector Dean Lohuis called for Margarito's hands to be rewrapped. According to Judd Burstein, the attorney for Mosley, Margarito had wet pads in the wrapping. Mosley's doctor, Robert Olvera, likened the material to the type of plaster used to make casts. Burstein said he seized the pad removed from the wrapping and another pad found in Margarito's dressing room. Both were placed in a sealed box that was given to Lohuis for further study.[44] The California Department of Justice laboratory later confirmed the substance to be similar in nature to plaster of Paris.[45]

 

Ok so you said wet pad not wet wrap, either way there was nothing wet is my point since this isent how plaster of paris works. And no it doesent have to be after the 3rd round it just has to long enough for the boxers sweat from his hands to reach the plaster to activate it so it gets hard.
Also you said you dont know much about what happend and that your not trolling which appers to be false.
It appears you are very well informed on this topic and are trolling.

 

Now you are showing how stupid you are lol There was never any plaster on the gauze pad or anywhere elsein the wrap. The independent lab that the CSAC hired to test it hoping to find evidence of plaster were shot down in flames. All there was in there was a small damp soft used gauze pad which the lab deemed perfectly harmless. These tests were done weeks after the fight, if they were supposed to get hard they didn't lol
Trainer Capetillo accidently picked up a used pad instead of a new one. This was at most merely a technical offense. The CSAC had already suspended Margarito's boxing licence based on the lies of Naz Richardson & his ludicrous plaster blocks that never existed . They tried to save face when they refused to return Margarito's license claiming. " We will not be returning Mr Margarito's license because we still believe he MAY have tried to load his gloves" In doing so they basically ruined an innocent mans career & tarnished his good name based on a blatant lie.
What happened to the US law than " Any suspect must be deemed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law" Never was a court, Tony was never indicted, it was a Kangaroo court hearing in which the infamous CSAC were Prosecution, witnesses for the prosecution, &the Judges too it was a total farce

 

The ref should have definately called it off, the fact Watson had to be pulled to the centre by him to touch gloves was disgraceful, he should have stopped it right there.

 

From Vegas huh lol No wonder youre attacking Margarito like all the Mayweather addicts are lol Sin City man accusing someone of illegal practices lol Give it up man

 

Wait a second.. didnt we already have this conversation a few months ago? Lol.
Have you ever heard of 'Defamation of Character' ? There are a few points I can make but ill use this 1 point. You see when you or anyone else types into any search engine Who is the dirtiest and biggest cheater in boxing hundreds of articles appear on Margarito. If what your saying is true then this would not be possible because of 'Defamation of Character'. Margarito would make millions from all these news outlets defaming him.
The reason all of these articles are still up is because its true that Margarito was a cheater.
Margarito has never not even once challenged these journalist so what does that say? Ill tell you, it says Margarito knows he would lose in court because unlike you Margarito knows he is a cheater.
Think about this also, what are the chances that Margarito gets caught against Mosley doing exactly what Cotto accused him of.
So if im stupid for pointing out facts then you must be a halfwit-nincompoop- numbskull.

 

And by the way, you taking a dig at Las Vegas on a boxing forum shows what a moron you are. Las Vegas is the boxing capital of the entire planet.

 

I was at the Cotto fight & saw Cotto congratulate Margarito there was never anything said about any accusations of cheating Cotto was beaten into submission by a real FIGHTER & by the better man It wasn't till Naz Richardson pulled his usual crap about the opponents but went too far claiming he saw PLASTER BLOCKS lol. All the CSAC had was the fact Javier Carpetillo accidently put a used pad into Tonys wrap for which they suspended Tony's license to earn a living based on Naz's Plaster Blocks claim. When the supposed plaster pad was tested, some weeks later, it was deemed harmless by the independent lab & indeed was STILL soft & damp. If the CSAC had come out & indicted Margarito for cheating he'd have been a very rich man today they totally destroyed his career instead

 

ROFLMAO Madison Square Garden is the Mecca of boxing or was when it was a combat sport & not just Sports Entertainment like the WWE. Vegas boxing is as corrupt as can possibly be & when you realize Bob Bennett the head honcho of the NSAC is ex FBI it makes it even scarier. I'm done discussing it with a moron