Bad posture?

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  1. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You bend both the same time simple mechanics, or lose posture. Heels on the floor stops athletic movement.
     
  2. tai chi

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    Correct! propioceptive kinetic linking! Greys backward plunge puts pressure on the knees and spine.
     
  3. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He isnt saying that, you did.
     
  4. tai chi

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    Isn't his technique too fall backwards turning his hips over violently?
     
  5. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    no.
     
  6. tai chi

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    I must be missing something if I understood grey correctly his weight is evenly distributed with a slight lean towards the right and then he drops onto his right leg and turns his hip over violently?
     
  7. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    What a load of ish. Without heels on the ground you can't jump as high as you should. Any rotational throwing movement requires the foot that isn't producing movement to brake in order to halt movement, stop the segment in order to place the stretch and propulsion on the next segement. That includes boxing, the 'shifting of weight' that people tend to talk about is just that, the lead foot stopping the forward momentum of the cross to allow stretch and rotation between the hips and shoulders. Same principle with the left hook but with the back foot being the brake.
     
  8. scrap

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    You really have not a clue,I dont believe you have trained anyone. To many holes in your posts.
     
  9. SteelShoulders

    SteelShoulders Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How anyone doesn't understand this advice is beyond me. It's the difference between throwing an arm left hook vs a left hook with whip and snap. Not hard at all.
     
  10. SteelShoulders

    SteelShoulders Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Halt movement to generate more power? Not at all. As you pivot off your lead foot and turn it through the direction of the target your shoulder whips through the target your back foot should stay parallel with your dominant elbow. Unless you want to get KTFO, or you're throwing a counter check hook.
     
  11. tai chi

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    S**** is saying that left hook is more powerful if you first drop and pivot simultaneously!?
     
  12. wayneflint

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    Dealt with why would you want to stop after the extention of a punch? What about the return? The following left hand when combo punching?

    To feel and experience what s**** is talking about throw a straight right n a left hook with lead heel down n then with it up, throw a single right hand lead and concentrate on the snap back after extention lead heel up n then down, both r done much better and effortless when the lead heel is lifted
     
  13. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Look at ANY throwing movement. The previous segment needs to stop to allow the stretch and force to be summated. If everything moves at the same time it's a whole body push instead of a whip. If a fighter is still turning their hips at the point of impact you have a guy who cannot punch. Look at punchers like Kovalev, Golovkin... their bodies are very still and stable at the point of impact, they whip their punches.
    It's exactly the same kinematically as throwing a baseball pitch, this is very simple stuff.
     
  14. dealt_with

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    When did I talk about the return? If you whip it out fast it whips back in with less effort, it's a matter of utilising the elastic energy in the tendons. Fast out fast in, if you're punching properly the throw and the return should be effortless, there shouldn't be any need to focus on it extending or returning. If you have to think about it chances are you are using muscle and pushing, instead of using tendon and whipping. It's simply a push versus a throw, all movements can be broken down into that.
    If the lead heel is up you have less contact with the ground, your balance is worse and you have less range to push into the ground with that ankle, and everything connecting to it. If you can throw straight punches without your lead heel touching the ground you are seriously limiting your power.
    Look at the way Rigo slams his front foot into the ground to halt his momentum when he throws the rear hand. His wide stance and whip is textbook baseball pitching.

    Does S**** actually tell his fighters to keep the lead heel off the ground? Even as a boxing trainer he is clueless if that's the case. Work on your craft S****.
     
  15. tai chi

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    Look at 0:45 of s****'s tape I'm unable paste it, see how the guy wobbles after he punches. Then both his heels lift off of the ground as he throws the upper cut, again off balance. Your right there's no stretch after impact.