Bad posture?

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by anjawnaymiz, Aug 21, 2015.


  1. tai chi

    tai chi Member Full Member

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    The something funny about this s**** character. I've been studying his punches and there's no snap in them. S**** is pushing his punches! Funny thing is he jumps up and down all day deliriously about balance but his punches leave you off balance and open to be knocked out.
     
  2. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Explain to me the mechanics, of 6, 3, 6. please be interesting to here it. :D
     
  3. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you do that, your stance is to wide.
     
  4. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Baseball pitcher, is probably the worst example, of throwing a punch i know, anything done in movement starts with the back foot except things like weightlifting and darts.
     
  5. tai chi

    tai chi Member Full Member

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    too wide :huh they're perfectly balanced!
     
  6. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So youre that guy in 33 million. :rofl
     
  7. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    What the hell are you talking about? Are you saying now that a baseball pitch does or doesn't use the backfoot? Of course you use the back foot, it's that powerful push off and stop with the front foot that creates the stretch and torque through the trunk for the power.
    You have powerful legs from lifting weights, a strong trunk with good thoracic ROM and timing, and good scapular mechanics and you have a powerful pitch. All those things, exactly the same for a powerful punch.
     
  8. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Well that makes sense if he teaches fighters to keep the lead heel off the ground.
    The sad thing is that he is a boxing trainer, and he doesn't even understand basic movement. Unfortunately you get a lot of that in the boxing game. What's even sadder is that instead of spending time learning from his mistakes he is playing around with vertical treadmills and trying to talk about matters of strength and conditioning, which he is even more clueless about than boxing.
    People can learn from S****, some people just want to be different.. the basics work, honesty works, intelligence works, continual learning works. Being a guru who lacks all those things doesn't work, the guy still hasn't reached the beginner stage and he talks like Yoda. It's both sad and funny.
     
  9. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Completely different technique, but like everything its of the back foot.
     
  10. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Have not trained fighters for 17 years, been into other things, like learning the truth. But answer a lot of people seeking advice on the phone. Love life, plus its great coming on here listening to people who think they know the truth, sadly they dont, but think they do.:D, Life evolves as does intelligence, thats a fact.
     
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  11. dealt_with

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    You're not interested in truth, if you were you wouldn't have gravitated towards pseudoscientific beliefs. If you were interested in the truth you'd educate yourself and learn the basics at least.
    Congratulations on enjoying your life. I don't know what specifically you're referring to as 'the truth', the truth is different depending on context and it's a matter of shades, rather than your black and white implication. What I do know is that you need an elementary understanding of basic principles to build from, and you lack that. I've always been and always will remain open to being wrong, to being educated. Why have you never been able to explain anything and expand my knowledge? Why have you always answered questions with riddles and allusions to clinical populations, and your vertical treadmill?
    You're a complete phony, and everyone with half a brain should be able see that.
     
  12. tai chi

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    Yep! A complete waist of time I am talking with him currently on saddoboxing and its circular explanation "what moves you", ground moves you not you the ground, back leg is your distance is statements that nobody can use.
     
  13. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Reason youre still on there is because of me, they wanted to ban you all your names :D. But me being a nice guy told them not too.
     
  14. SteelShoulders

    SteelShoulders Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Brehs no need to fight in here. Credit to my mans Yuzo over at my other spot

    the left hook generates power from the rotational momentum of the hips transferring the momentum that it generates through the arm and into the fist. there are two ways that you can rotate the hips to transfer the momentum it generates into a left hook in boxing. you can initiate the rotational momentum of the hips by introducing a turning force to it which you can create by pushing with the left side of the hip or by pulling with the right side of the hip. the right side of the hip has the greatest distance from the left hook which means that using it to generate rotational momentum can produce more torque for a left hook than the left side of the hip can. pulling with the right side of the hip maximizes torque which you are going to experience as a whipping feeling when you are throwing the left hook vs a pushing feeling when you are throwing the left hook. there are some interesting physics behind this but i won't talk about it here. you have to understand how torque works in different sports when you are swinging a bat or throwing something however most boxers are never taught about how torque works or know what torque is.

    when you have generated rotational momentum of the hips you have to then transfer it into your arm. the rotational momentum of the hips is what causes the arm to start moving. the arm does not start moving on its own. therefore the arm actually needs to be behind the hips as it rotates. the rotational momentum of the hips pulls the arm and is what adds whip to your left hook. the arm has to be behind the hips as its rotating to create whip and an arm that is moving at the same time with the rotational momentum of the hips and not behind the rotational momentum of the hips, and therefore being pulled by it, won't whip.

    http://i.imgur.com/8DsjA6P.gif

    nonito donaire generates rotational momentum of the hips, pulling the arm, creating whip


    most fighters instinctively drag the arm back and out to cause the arm to be behind the hips as the hips are rotating to add whip. most trainers think this is some kind of error and constantly try to fix it. they have to constantly try to fix it because fighters are going to constantly try to do it. they do it because they are instinctively trying to add whip. when a trainer succeeds in supposedly fixing this he has successfully created an arm puncher.

    you actually have to drag the arm back and out when you throw a left hook when you are fighting in a squared up stance or your left hook will not have any circular range on it. a long time ago fighters fought out of a very sideways stance. out of that stance the lead arm, the arm that throws the left hook, is already behind the hip, and therefore the fighters that used to fight out of that stance, fighters like jimmy mclarnin and mickey walker, don't have to drag the arm back and out to create whip when they throw the left hook. felix trinidad fights in a squared up stance and has to drag the arm back and out to throw the left hook to get it moving behind his hip. this is the way he has to create whip fighting from that squared up stance.

    you can know that the rotational momentum of the hips has transferred into the arm because you are going to start feeling the arm being yanked on very hard as the hips rotate. the arm is now going to start moving with a lot of force. as the arm starts being pulled by the rotational momentum of the hips finish the movement by aggressively turning the arm into a hook and powering it through. the circular range of the left hook is going to vary on how far from you or how near to you what you are trying to hit is. you can connect with the palm down or with the palm facing you however i recommend connecting with the palm facing you because connecting with the palm down has a tendency to skim.

    i didn't talk about things like foot placement because this is going to vary from fighter to fighter depending on the stance that fighter is fighting in. however whats constant is that body weight is always going to end over the right leg when you finish. fighters like tyson and frazier shift a majority percentage of their body weight over their left leg loading the left hook with body weight. the transfer of their body weight starting over the left leg and shifting and finishing over the right leg is what creates their punching power. that is to say what they are actually hitting you with is their body weight as it is being expressed by the transferring of it from the left leg to the right leg. this is why they had really powerful left hooks.
     
  15. scrap

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    Youre telling lies again, you dont know yourself, Im thinking :yep