Bad stoppage, but Groves would have been stopped

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what does that even mean ffs

 

I wouldn't have blamed Groves for chinning the fat ****.

 

Well if it had gone the distance then Groves was getting shafted anyway. It's beyond belief that two judges only had Froch one point behind.
So according to them if you assume that Groves took the 1st round 10-8 then Froch was winning the fight from the 2nd round through round 8!

 

Its actions like this and the judges scorecards that make British boxing an embarrassment.

How could Groves only be one point ahead? He basically schooled Froch and has a 10-8 r1.

 

awful early decision on par with recent non british judging decisions.

 

Listen anyone that says Groves would of been stopped has never saw Khan v Maidana round 10. Khan took a lot more punishment than Groves and Khan has a weaker chin than George. George has been hurt before, but always recovered and went on to win. All fans wanted was a fair ref and the 1st time Froch had Groves in a bit of trouble he jumps in and ruins it.

 

Spot on mate.

 

If Groves had a history of being ko'd you might be able make a case for the ref but he was unbeaten FFS. Can't remember what round it was but Froch was caught clean 5 or 6 times in a row and looked in trouble. Did the ref jump in and stop it? Of course he didn't. He was looking for a reason to stop Groves because of the schooling that everybody except the judges saw unfolding, We've seen it many times before and the scorecards confirmed it.
Disgraceful and even worse on 2nd viewing.

 

I couldn't believe it but was loving it.

Still coming to terms with the sickening stoppage

 

2 different people. ridiculous.

 

It's an example. Maidana is a bigger puncher than Carl. Khan supposedly has the worst chin at the top level of boxing. Khan was taking a lot more punishment than what Groves was. Khan head dropped like Groves did. He survived and won. I think Groves would of recovered and knocked Carl out.

 

One of the worst stoppages ive seen in a long time, no exaggeration.

Groves threw it away though by being drawn into a scrap. Froch really is impossible to hurt once hes warmed up.

The whole thing stinks to high heavens though in fairness. Whether it be a TV thing, a sanctioning body directive or whatever. The result that was best for "business" was had tonight.

What I would like to see is a transparent system where judges scoring comes under closer scrutiny, dodgy cards need to be analysed and judges in question need to be made accountable. Whatever about the farcical stoppage, it should be mandatory that judges (who can score that Groves being only 1 point ahead by the time the fight was stopped) need to explain themselves.

Its not good enough to talk about "what fight was he/she watching". Something needs to be done right now.

Secondly, judges/referees backgrounds need to be checked more thoroughly. Financial records, the whole lot. Something stank about that stoppage, the ref didn't even look Groves in the eye before waving it off. Either hes grossly incompetent at his job, or else hes on an earner from someone who knows whats best for business.

Its becoming a joke in the UK, don't forget the Burns v Beltran fight aswell which had a farcical element to it aswell.

Its simply not good enough to say such things cause "lively debate" etc... questions need to be answered.

For what its worth, I have no preference for either Froch or Groves, every boxing fan knows Froch's limitations. pre fight, the debate amongst those who know boxing was whether Groves had the where with all to expose these limitations and he did that for 7-8 rounds in quite emphatic fashion.

The boxing powers that be have now seemingly created their own narrative in order to milk more money for "the rematch" which Eddie Hearn quite ashamedly mentioned straight after the fight no less.

For me, it was clearly not a level playing field in that ring tonight, The champ was given multiple warnings (and in some rounds not warned at all) for hitting after the bell and using forearms on multiple occasions.

Again, this is either a case of a grossly incompetent referee or else something alot more worrying (a way of hopefully doing whats best for business).

Watched a "Big Fight" again with friends (who can kinda take it or leave it) and was embarrassed to have to defend questions once again as to why we follow such a clearly corrupt sport.

Anyway rant over.

On a side not, Froch strikes me as a very insecure individual. The booing at the end is probably worse to him than any KO he could suffer. He mentioned the word "respect" about 10 times in a bizarre post fight rant justifying his win. Was quite funny to see him salute the crowd at the end when they were booing quite loudly its as if his pride wouldn't allow him to acknowledge thats what was happening so was best for him to block it out. When a guy has to constantly ask for respect and remind folks that he is to be respected then its hard to maintain the sentiment.

Terrific heart and extraordinary chin but hes nothing special really.

 

One thing I have seen nobody mention is why did George turn away from the action? Why did Groves start to get ****y and start dropping his hands more and getting into exchanges. As bad as the stoppage was George has to take some blame because he was the one who threw it away, he knew Howard Foster was ref who has a history of poor stopages, he shouldn't have got himself in that position. It's not like Froch turned the fight around, Groves let him have a bit more success and it bit him on the arse.

 

Groves was amazing but I felt he had done his best and very early. 12 rounds was a long time and Groves was never going to gain more stamina, speed or power. Froch remains incredible when it comes to recuperating. I'm surprised Groves didn't get tired earlier.

With Groves hurt, Froch was going to keep going. I think Groves was close to getting stopped but that's an opinion, the ref robbed us of reality.

 

That's the real problem... There wouldnt be fighhters like gatti, ward or corales.... And guys like froch.... The problem is this wasn't just another british stoppage.... It was a fix.


When carl is defenseless and taking big shots no one is concerned about thenfighters health... When hes put down heavy and stumbling back towards the ropes... No ones concerned about his health... But groves is dazed but still up and aware.... Its stopped instantly. This is one fighter getting jobbed