Some trainers teaches the guys same boxing style. Not see sweet science like shoulder roll, left hooker, chess game, counter punching, etc. How do you handle these trainers if you don't agree in everything they teaches? Also these old coaches demonizes weightlifting, and doesn't want to learn new things. They are stuck in the old stuff. Not open minded. Not all but too many.
Find a new gym. If you don't agree with what you're doing then you won't enjoy it. If you don't enjoy it you will give it up. You have to enjoy it! At my old gym the trainer had ropes from the corner of the ring to the other for slipping/countering, cones, hurdles and ladders for agility, made you swap bags after every round (and there was a few different ones!) and basically tried to implement every facet of Boxing into an hour if you went on the pads with him (Mayweather style, power shots in small combos, countering, slipping/defensive etc). You'd go through all that and he'd see what works for you and work on it and discard what didn't. And there'd be a S&C element with it as well. That is what you call a good coach, IMHO. You've just gotta find someone on your wavelength, bro. Don't settle until you do!
Can't change their way, that's how a professional of any area should be judged for: constant learning and improvement, otherwise it just shows the lack of love for the sport and clients. You have to get out of there, isn't any trust to your coach and in the end you'll end hating the sport because of that, such a waste of time and money too.
I wouldn't just categorize someone as a bad trainer just because he doesn't teach you specific styles. Shoulder roll might look relatively simple but there are some intricacies and details to that style that certain trainers simply don't/can't teach because they never used that style and were never taught how to use it. You need to learn how to duck the overhand rights, how to counter with the right, check hook, how to jab in that stance, where to position your head and hands, adapt the upper body movement and footwork to that style etc. There aren't many trainers that are well versed in it, particularly outside the USA. My first trainer was also very old school, his idol was Wladimir Klitschko and he wanted all of us to have similar robotic style based on straight punches, because his trainer was like that too and that's the tradition in Eastern Europe anyway. He also didn't have modern ideas about strength and conditioning. I was a beginner back then though I didn't know much about boxing so I did what he was saying. Now years later I have a different style that's way more diverse, but that old coach still taught me very good fundamentals. We were drilling the jab, straight right and particularly left hook all the time and while it might seem boring it paid off. I have a really solid technical left hook and don't telegraph my right hands. If everything else fails I still have a plan B to just go back to the robotic boxing, keep my hands up and jab. Some other coach might have taught me more fancy stuff in the beginning but who knows if I would have learned the fundamentals as well in that case. This is just my experience, but I think you should always try to take whatever the coach is trying to learn you and move on when it's time. If you're serious about boxing you'll probably have several different trainers during your "career" as a hobbyist or an amateur or whatever you want to be. People switch gyms and trainers all the time. For example look at Kovalev speaking very highly about his very first boxing coach even though that trainer and the training at that gym in his hometown probably wasn't on the level of what Kovalev has now. But he still appreciates the good things that he learned.
Good points. Yes I have many coaches and everyone of them is different. I try to pick up the good advices from different coaches and then add it to my boxing game. I don't really buy that Wladimir Klitschko's style too much. He never goes to the body and always clinches inside. Its effective but boring. Boxing is about going to the body and head, slipping punches, blocking, moving away and much more. Don't need to be too one sided fighter.
A trainer has to teach everyone the same style until they reach a certain point. It's called fundamentals, something most people on here seem to know nothing about. No fighter has remotely a "style" until they have been boxing for at LEAST 9 solid months of good quality training. By teaching the shoulder roll and other "sweet science" to newbies, the coach is setting them up for failure. Btw, left hooker, chess game, counter punching are not styles. A left hooker is someone who naturally throws the left hook a lot because it is one of their best punches in terms of timing, accuracy etc. "Chess Game" is when you get two smart fighters who know they both are very skilled and on an equal level. Counter punching is also not a style, again it is a boxing fundamental. A fighter who primarily counter punches is doing it because they took to it. Nobody taught these people to fight that way, they just take to it. I like coming on here every once in a while because I get a good laugh at the nonsense posted in this section. Lmao fighters don't need weight lifting either, unless they are bulking and even that is dependent on the fighter. You guys complain to much. Wouldn't last in a real gym.
You said it well. I tell my team all the time. "Everyone is different. Everyone will have their own style. I will not teach a certain style or change your style. I teach solid technique and fundamentals. I can teach you to box but I can't teach you to be a boxer."
Agree with all that was said here. Learning the fundamentals by definition is essential, and although relatively simple e.g. learning how to stand, bob, weave, throw a jab, cross right etc... if this isn't learnt properly, then learning the more advances skills would be pointless. You can't learn to run without walking first - and yes, one of the most valuable lessons boxing has taught me is to be humble and respectful - especially for your trainers. If you're not liking your current trainer, find a new one, no shortage in London lol. But learn from what he has taught you, and seek to add.
