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  1. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Spanish referee was a well-respected man, who was thought to have refereed the fight without any bias. United Press report in describing the rounds actually ends up a draw or Uzcudun winning more rounds than Schmeling.

    There was also a loss to Steve Hamas, who was nothing much, an aggressive slugger with good left hook, he had lame right leg (knee injury from playing football) going into the bout (actually it affected his other performances too, why he never became anything much), but who outboxed and outjabbed Schmeling with ease in most of the rounds.
     
  2. janitor

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    You can make a strong case for it being a weak era, but it was not an era short of technicians, or even an era dominated by punchers where a limited puncher could thrive.

    In fact it seems to be an era with every type of heavyweight imaginable.

    The only thing missing is a truly dominant talent, like Dempsey or Louis.
     
  3. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    MOST felt Max had won. Max was also unmarked. Paulino was badly marked up.

    Again Max was champion or leading contender for over a decade. Great technician, tough, excellent right hand puncher.
     
  4. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Were there many big mobile ones with fast hands who could jab on the move and throw smooth combinations without falling off balance? :think
     
  5. Mr.DagoWop

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    That's an extremely generic and invalid explanation. A successful argument could be made that each era is weak. Try again.
     
  6. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Not invalid at all. It was a weak era full of very small heavyweights and men who rose from obscurity with low-quality training and competition. Even the technicians of the day demonstrated skills and techniques that became more refined in the following decades. Try again.
     
  7. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's actually quite untrue. Styles changed and in process the finer side of the game changed. Some for the worst some for the better.
     
  8. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    What part are you claiming is untrue? That many techniques and skills became more refined over time?
     
  9. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Your entire premise is completely incorrect. Guess again.
     
  10. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Once again, you try to intervene without having anything of value to add. Go research the top heavyweights from the 30s, compare them to those of the 80s & 90s, and then get back to me.
     
  11. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Who is most? I've only seen two reports of that bout, have you seen more?
     
  12. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Question is do I waste my time educating the most low class illiterate on these boards? I think not.
     
  13. Perry

    Perry Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    MAX SCHMELING, UZCUDUN DRAW
    Sports Writers Credit ExChamp With Victory, Judges Decide Even Barcelona, Spain— (IP) — Max Schmellng, former world's heavyweight champion, pounded the veteran basque, Paulino Uzcudun, about the ring in Momtjuich stadium for 12 rounds today, cut him severely about the face and emerged with nothing better than a draw decision. Sports writers credited Schmeling with at least eight rounds, though the Teuton had easily outboxed Paulino all the way and felt the judges had been Influenced by the Basque's courageous fight against a superior foe. Repeating history, Joe Jacobs, the German's manager, shouted Schmellng was "robbed," Just as he had In New York two years ago when Schmellng lost a decision and his world title to Jack Sharkey. Two hours before the fight Jacobs had protested the naming as referee of Juan Casanovas, secretary of the Spanish Boxing Federation and a close friend of Paulino's. Sasanovas is recognized as one of the foremost boxing autborities In Spain and observers could detect no favoritism ln the manner in which he handled the fight. Schmeling Draws Blood Schmeling opened a cut over Paulino's left eye in the sixth round. Blood, pouring from this and two other Wounds Schmeling inflicted ln tho tenthi spattered the customers in the first three rows during the closing rounds.
     
  14. Perry

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    Note that the article states that SPORTSWRITERS CREDITED SCHMELING WITH AT LEAST EIGHT ROUNDS.
     
  15. Senya13

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    That's the AP report. As was typical for them, they imagined in their mind that their scorecard was shared by almost every other writer at ringside. They didn't mention which writers they polled (if polled at all), or whether there were any who didn't agree with their opinion. Thus my question, did you read any other reports (other than AP and UP)?