Baers portrayal in Cinderalla man??

That’s the only personal account I’ve heard about Baer, but my grandma swears by him being a class act. Though her cousin the gambler was a very well known partier in the area back in those days, so even despite Baer being older then, not saying he didn’t enjoy the wild side of life a bit, as he was known to.

Other than that, I can only speak on interviews of his children that I have seen. His son claims that Max was a very gentle man who harbored great remorse over Campbell. I seem to vaguely recall him even saying that he had even heard his father cry in his sleep over a nightmare about Campbell’s death years after the fact.

 

“Nothing that ever happened to me—nothing that can happen to me—affected me like the death of Frankie Campbell. It was almost a week after the fight before I could get more than an hour or so of successive sleep. Every slightest detail would come racing back to mind, and I couldn’t blot from my eyes the last scene—Frankie unconscious in the ring, his handlers working on him. And then the news that he was dying … dead.”

- Max Baer

 

A lot of what you are posting on this forum simply doesnt wash with the facts. Baer did fight at least one exhibition in support of Campbells family and donated his entire purse as champion to the family, $10,000 which would be about $230,000 in todays money.

You have made a lot of claims about Baer raping and beating women that you say are found in transcripts of trials but anyone can testify to anything in court. Was it ever proven? Was he ever convicted of any of this? A lot of this information you seem to garner from Baer's divorce proceedings. Is it really uncommon for women to slander their husbands during divorce proceedings to paint them as a monster and get more favorable treatment by the court? Id wager this happens more often than not and certainly in an era when divorces werent granted as easily as they are today.

You accuse the referee in the Baer-Campbell fight of being paid off but what is your evidence and how did this supposedly influence the outcome of the fight? The descriptions of the fight make it clear it was a vicious grudge fight. Campbell went back to his corner after one round complaining that he felt like something in his head had burst and yet his corner, knowing this, never stopped the fight.

You say that a chief second was planted in Campbell's corner. You are obviously referring to Tillie Kid Herman. Herman had been in Baer's camp but he had a falling out with Baer and out of spite went over to Campbell's camp. Campbells gladly took him on as a means of goading Baer. Baer was furious by this and it added to the enmity between the fighters.

You say the boxing commissioner was profiteering off of Baer's fights? How? The commissioner was an independently wealthy man. He didnt need to profit from Baer's fights.

You clearly put a lot of stock in the first investigation into this bout that was ultimately found to be severely faulty and completely rejected. A second investigation was conducted by an independent panel that, unlike the first panel, had experience in the sport and found no wrong doing. The head of the first panel was sued for slander by the referee of Baer-Campbell (who was one of the most respected referees in the state and continued to be so for years). Did you ignore the findings of the second investigation?

You make a lot of the unanswered blows that Baer landed on Campbell but if you look at the photos of that fight Campbell was trapped in a corner, held up by the ring ropes, almost exactly like Benny Paret when he was killed by Emile Griffith. The referee was behind the fighters and Campbell's corner which was in a better position to know the condition of their fighter did nothing. Campbells death was a tragic event but it appears you are going out of your way to make a conspiracy of it.

 

Watched The Harder they fall yesterday with Bear playing Buddy Brannon (His real self if these claims are true) Great film