Bag work essential?

How is it "essential"?

Many fighters don't do bagwork.

It's not essential at all.

1) Sparring
2) Pads
3) Bags

That'd be my order if I wanted to replicate a real fight.

 

Bag work is essential in developing the power of a fighter's punches, the better conditioning and technique the fighter has the harder he/she can hit the
bag. Therefore bag work can be a measuring stick which can assess your physical and technique.

 

Bags breed bad technique. Pads are much better.

 

Here are the reasons why I will not do pad work;-
1. The fighter squares up, in order to reach the pads, then carries that 'square on' into a real
fight and becomes an easier target to hit.

2. Pad work causes many injuries i.e, hand, wrist, neck, shoulder, also over many years of pad work the muscles become compacted and the fighter' reach is reduced with power loss.

3. Pad work does not replicate hitting an opponent, the fighter has one focal point in a real fight and the arms rarely cross. When hitting pads there are two focal points and the arms constantly cross, thus leading to muscle fibres in the arms becoming realigned and as a consequence power loss.

 

4. The pad man can never move as fast as your opponent.

5. You only look good on the pads, depending on which pad man.

6. The pad man is always in control telling you what to do, in a real fight you have to think for your self.

 

7. The pad man's imagination and creativity may not match the fighter's. Therefore hinder the fighter's development.

8.If the pad man is 'dodgy' he may knobble you before a fight

 

Shadow boxing in my opinion is second to sparring, here your opponnent can be anyone you can imagine, short, tall, fast and slow. Your can punch as hard as you can without the physical impact. Feet and hands are trained in coordinated unison, dexterity and power go hand in hand. The body is trained evenly unlike other methods that distort the balance of muscles throughout the body. This distortion in muscles result in power loss.

 

Where to start with the silliness that you've put?

No, a fighter doesn't "Square up" to hit the pads.

Bag work causes a TON of injuries.

1) Nobody to tell you your technique is off (unlike a pad man)
2) You are hitting the bag full pelt (pads can be used technically)

Bag work does not replicate hitting an opponent, but it's A MILLION TIMES more realistic than hitting a bag. Ever heard the saying "bags don't hit back"? Nobody uses than on pads. Pads are known to be the next best thing to mimic a fight with after sparring.

A bag can't move like a pad man.

You can look bad on the pads depending on how you perform on the day.

No, you can name combos as well.

See above. Besides, a good pad man will have endless techniques. And you can perfect them. You cannot do that on a bag.

Yeah, because you've used your rivals pad man for a fight and not clued on.

Go away you idiot. I've broke you down. Log out and leave the bags alone.

This sub-forum is seriously THE WORST ON THE NET for training. Besides virus, dealt with and s****, it's beyond repairable.

 

No. Just no.

Hitting pads can be a workout, can improve you and rid you of bad habits because you are getting told to correct the wrongs by your pad man.

Shadow boxing does none of that.

 

You and your traditions, I would expect this the pad man has to justify is postion, or else he might just find himself out of a job! Does boxing follow the laws of physics

 

Is boxing a science? It's called the sweet science, but where are the scientists?
Does a trainer know more about the human body than a human physiology major.
Would you take your car to a mechanic who wasn't trained in motor mechanics.

So why would anyone allow a traditional boxing trainer, who level of knowledge is often limited. Most people who boxed are often physicaly scarred for lifetime due to the lack of knowledge of tbe human body of the trainer!

 

Boxing has been around for at least 10,000 BC, when where pads invented? Before pads fighters could fight for 100 rounds, three minutes. Since pads where invented how long do fighters last? Nuff said pad work overtime will diminish a fughters power.

 

So do you train with scientists?

Honestly, f*ck off.

 

Nobody holds me pads. So stfu ***** pad hitters. You dont hit bag because its boring for you. So stfu

 

Would you have a car mechanic teach you the techniques to win a Nascar race? No. You would go to a former race car driver.



Scientists or trained professionals... a la car mechanics, are useful for working on improving the performance and capability of the car aka optimal knowledge of the body.. not for using said car to win a race, aka using your body to emerge victorious in a boxing specific context.