Bag work essential?

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by tai chi, Dec 12, 2015.


  1. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oh ****. I didn't realise you have some qualifications.

    Soz boss. You're clearly right about everything you've said, your quals most definately prove this.
     
  2. tai chi

    tai chi Member Full Member

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    Andy it's taken me about a week to run what you've said with some of the national trainers who I work with and they're on the same page as you. Pads do teach to square a fighter up, this why they've just caught on the last 10 years. I'm glad I read this post. What you recommend instead of doing pad work?
     
  3. Adybrrady

    Adybrrady Member Full Member

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    Why do you need to replace pad work with anything? Bruce Lee said if it is useless discard it, keep only what is useful.
     
  4. tai chi

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  5. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't see why it's either/or.

    Pad work and bag work should probably be part of your workout.
     
  6. tai chi

    tai chi Member Full Member

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    Because it teaches fighters to square up!
    Encourages poor foot work!
    Most important a short hammer fist jab.
     
  7. aj415

    aj415 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hmm.. if thats the case I would guess the best fighters in the sport wouldn't do padwork right?

    Lets look down the top 10 p4p list.. wait all those guys do padwork.. doh
     
  8. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    None of this is true.
     
  9. Zaryu

    Zaryu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I would say it's an essential part of the equipment needed to help you be the best boxer you could possibly be.

    I don't know why more gyms have less bags, maybe it's because they have less people, or they want more room for other activities, but I don't think that means bag work isn't needed. If a gym owner/trainer felt bag work wasn't needed why even bother having three, or any at all? Might as well save some money and put it to better use somewhere else.
     
  10. Adybrrady

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    In the history of boxing, which is at least 10,000 years old, how long has pad work been in existence? I would say it is a fairly recent addition to boxing training.
    A wise man once said, 'do not follow traditions, for they are handed down from generation to generation. First you must reason, does that tradition make sense'

    I have reasoned that pad work makes no sense, for the reasons I stated in an earlier post.

    Also just because most of the top fighters use pad work does not make pad work technically efficient. Most fighters follow tradition.

    There is a fighter that has not used pad work as an aid to conditioning, and he will be announcing himself in the new year; watch this space!
     
  11. tai chi

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    Why do bags and pads when there's sparring?
     
  12. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Because you need to learn and drill the theory before applying it.
     
  13. tai chi

    tai chi Member Full Member

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    Theory! Well I don't believe in theory rather I believe in fighting! :bbb
    Do you really believe that most boxers had access to bags 100 years ago!
     
  14. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Yes, the good boxers did, so the rubbish boxers would try to do what the good ones were doing! One of which was punching heavy bags.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/16/James_J._Corbett_with_punching_bag_cph.19131.jpg
    - Corbett preparing for his fight with Jeffries over 100 years ago.

    It simply isn't practical to put your body through so much trauma to learn your discipline. Theory is an irrefutable and irreplaceable fact of boxing.

    If boxer A is never coached but constantly just fights then 99 times out of 100 he won't beat boxer B who is coached AND fights.

    I'm not even a huge fan of heavy bags but I've got to call BS on what is being said about bags and pads. Heavy bags aren't the best tool for you because the resistance it provides does not mimic a human opponent, therefore unless you are have a strong structure it can lead to injuries because boxers often punch wrong. However with good coaching, you can use the bag properly so it helps, and not hinders, your progression.
     
  15. BEATDOWNZ

    BEATDOWNZ Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Bag work is great for power and endurance but you need an watchful eye over you or you will pick up too many bad habits.

    Padwork irons out bad habits.