Bakole v Ortiz ?

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  1. DavidJames

    DavidJames Active Member Full Member

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    Both avoided. Bakole apparently elite world class - so surely would fancy a fight with Ortiz?

    I would like to see this...
     
  2. Dragon Punch

    Dragon Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It’s just not realistic unfortunately.

    Eddie will be looking to use Bakole for one of his undercards against one of his stable
    Kuzmin (assuming it can be rescheduled)H Fury, Allen, Price etc

    Ortiz is just not worth the hassle or cost.
     
  3. N17

    N17 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ortiz is a myth, I have no idea why people still mention him, he is 98 years old, has a heart or blood pressure problem.

    Best win was Bryant Jennings and that was years ago now, his claim to fame was being ahead against Wilder before being knocked out.

    Forget him, hasn't fought since Wilder slumped him, Bakole should be looking beyond this type of opponent.
     
  4. Heisenberg

    Heisenberg @excelsioroptimum Full Member

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    Wow, I would love to know their real combined age... numerically they should probably be competing in Tyson’s Legends Only League, except neither have won close to anything in the game yet.
     
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  5. nurological

    nurological Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Same as Oscar Rivas who's only win is an older shot version of Jennings.
     
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  6. Potwash

    Potwash The Real Untouchables Full Member

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    Bakole ain't got the bollocks to get in the ring with Ortiz. If he is world class then he should have no problem beating him.
     
  7. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    Rivas was losing that handily as well IMO
     
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  8. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ortiz WINS easily. Shutout.
     
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  9. ButeTheBeast

    ButeTheBeast Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Exactly.

    People who don't rate Ortiz are Matchroom fans mainly.
     
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  10. Skyver

    Skyver Active Member Full Member

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    He's a borderline top 10 heavyweight and that's it.there's no evidence to rate him as anything else.
     
  11. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    For the most part that seems to be true. I kinda get it, as he doesn’t have the record to really back him up, but it’s clear from watching him that he’s a plenty decent boxer. Or was, at least. He’s probably finished now
     
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  12. ButeTheBeast

    ButeTheBeast Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ortiz is on a similar sort of level to Povetkin. I'd back Luis Ortiz to beat anyone outside of Joshua, Wilder, Fury & Dubois.

    Ask Bryant Jennings how good Luis Ortiz is.

    There's a reason why so many have avoided him. He's in the 'who needs me' club. But thankfully, he's building a good profile. I can see Andy Ruiz Jr vs Luis Ortiz doing very good PPV buys, the Mexican and Cuban community will come out for that fight. That fight would sell out in Los Angeles.
     
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  13. Inglis_1

    Inglis_1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think he beats Dubois at this stage if they did fight but Dubois is a star in the making, but yes, I agree otherwise. Ortiz is a slick operator, albeit with not such a great gas tank. It's a shame we didn't get to see him in his prime as he would have definitely caused some havoc in the division.
     
  14. ButeTheBeast

    ButeTheBeast Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Agree.

    Him and Golovkin wasted so much of their prime, very sad!

    It is good to see them make some proper money before they retire. Particularly with Ortiz, his daughter has a medical condition and bills in the US are not cheap.
     
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  15. Inglis_1

    Inglis_1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah getting the rematch with Wilder certainly helped him as he as he took the first Wilder fight for a good purse but not as big as it could have been. The 2nd fight however has probably set him up for life.