Jim Lahey is a character from Canadian comedy 'Trailer Park Boys' who said that about Ricky & Julian, but i thought it was a very fitting analogy (or equation as Mike would say ) for Tyson. Is that Foreman video just the '5 Men in Toronto' video? I did watch the part where Foreman pushes the guy accross the ring with supreme ease & calmness. :scaredas:
I never seen the video before, Foreman was actin a fool what i really think he was doing was trying to show he was still a bad ass (while still he had doubts in his head)
Ah i see, in that case i'll watch the full video, Foreman was mentally unstable after Ali whupped him. George was a young 40-0 World Champion KO-Punching machine with a great "Aura of Invincibility", who had obliterated Frazier & Norton who both previous beat Ali. He couldn't accept being dominated & KO'd by a 32 year old Ali who was meant to be an "old man" he could quickly bowl over. Your new avatar is class.
I made it myself, note the magazine says Tyson: Is the Fury Gone...:smoke Actually same thing with Tyson, although i dont think the Douglas loss affected him as much as the Holyfield one
I think the Douglas loss made Tyson truly "wake-up" & become extremely motivated to regain his world titles. He started using the "Willie" number system punchbag for the first time since he trained for Spinks in '88. Mike was making good progress reversing his deterioration with Giachetti by the time he met Ruddock twice. He was as supremely conditioned physically & mentally as ever, & while from a technical perspective he wasn't super elusive as he had been with Rooney, he was more frequently using crippling bodypunching & dynamite straight righthands than he did with Rooney. The problem was, Mike desperately wanted a title shot at Holy, & Don King was intent on making him wait, to prove he could make equal money with Tyson & no titles, as Holy could as undisputed champ. Tyson really wanted to leave King from before the first Ruddock fight, because he wasn't getting him a title shot, & by the time Mike realised he was never getting paid his millions for the two Ruddock wars, he was desperate to leave the serpentine moneygrabber King.
A lot of people underrate Ruddock nowadays. His problem was that he was JUST peaking, maybe hadnt fully peaked and he was thrown in against Tyson. After recieving 19 rounds of intense punishment he wasnt the same guy anymore, then came Lewis and Tommy Morrison. Nobody wanted to fight Ruddock, not Holyfield, not Bowe nor Foreman. It was Tyson who fought him twice. Tyson looked sloppy against Douglas, its so blatantly obvious, he looked much sharper against Ruddock. Douglas was a good wakeup call for Tyson. But then he made the same mistake against Holyfield. He underestimated Holyfield, Tommy Brooks said Tyson only trained 2 weeks for the Holyfield fight. Look for a guy called Kadaffi99 on youtube, hes got every single Tyson fight, including all the pre fight and post fight stuff. I tried to download his videos but Tubesucker wasnt working. His page link www.youtube.com/user/Kadadfi99#g/u Heres Tysons whole return thing vs Mcneeley www.youtube.com/user/Kadadfi99#p/u/16/D3Uv0ynBqog
Can i have a source for that please? Good post, in the brutal rematch Tyson broke two of Ruddock's ribs, his jaw (in round 4 according to Sports Illustrated) & gave him a awful swollen welt under his eye... that can't be good for anyone. Tyson also looked sloppy & had horrible ragged defense against Bruno in '89. Frank is a very good "boxer", but he's not a impressive "fighter". He didn't get a chance to "box", but he made Tyson look sloppy in a "fight". It's a real shame the Carl Williams fight was stopped when it was, because arguably he could have continued. If it hadn't been stopped, i think Tyson might've had a earlier wake-up call from another tall jabber, in that the trouble he'd be given before getting the eventual KO could've made him think, that is if Williams could last more than a few rounds before being clocked by a lefthook.
I love that youtube channel, it's the best Tyson channel by far. :good The best addon for downloading youtube videos is Ant Video: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/video-downloader-player/
Aint got the the source for the Brooks thing, but i did read it about a year ago on this very website, someone posted an interview with Brooks and he mentioned it If anything the Williams fight lulled him into more of a slumber, after that fight he actually asks Holyfield (whos ringside) to come into the rignt right now to get it on
Ive given up downloading videos, but i normally use TubeSucker for Youtube vids and Safari for other stuff I tried to download all the vids on his page especially the rare, hard to find, Tyson-Botha entrance. The problem is, some of his friggin vids are in Swedish/Norwegian!
Yes it made him more over-confident, but i'm saying it could've woken him up, if it wasn't stopped so soon.
Valid point, it took a hellacious brutal beating from Buster & getting with a competent trainer in Giachetti to wake Mike up to reality.
And then he goes and does the same friggin thign against holyfield! He fights hi with nobody in his corner, then after the first fight, he gets Giachetti, but it was too late by then, Tyson was already mind****ed He lost his bottle in prison, i dont think its ever been stated, but thats what i believe
I agree with this, Mike rotted in prison for how long? 3.5 years rotting in jail within a long layoff of 4 years & 2 months. :-( For a crime he still, with brutal honesty in his face & tone, denies he committed. I heard Tyson would only eat tinned fish in prison, because he was paranoid of being poisoned. He also said some prisoners threw feces at him. That really doesn't sound like a mentally healthy state he was in.