Banks and Golovkin turned down a third Canelo fight this year

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  1. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Give up Clown...ha haha what a loser
     
  2. Scar

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    No, it's not a robbery. A robbery is a clearly one-sided fight scored a draw or given to the clear loser. This wasn't the case in both fights. I could care less what Max Kellerman or whoever says, I refrain from paying attention to other people's opinions when I score fights. That's why I had no problems scoring fights against the fighters I support when I believe they lost. Try to do the same and ignore the twitter highlights that are stuck in your heart for a change.
     
  3. m.s.

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    I do the same, and i dont go on Facebook or twitter. So here's a idea, let's agree to disagree.
     
  4. Scar

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    It's not really a case of agreeing or disagreeing. Close fights can't be considered robberies. They are merely fights that can go either way. I picked Pacquiao over Marquez in the rematch, but I never argued with anyone that scored it for Marquez because it would be idiotic. People that considered that fight a robbery too are morons. It's the same case for Hagler vs Leonard, DLH vs Mayweather(I scored it for De La Hoya, by the way), Barrera vs Morales I and II...etc. Fights that are robberies are fights like Chavez vs Whitaker, Bradley vs Pacquiao, Khan vs Peterson and so on. You just can't fathom the fact that Golovkin was fighting an opponent that was able to take his punch with no issues and was able to fight back. This is the first time he takes on a hopeful opponent and the results remains unfathomable to you.
     
  5. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How can they even fight? Everything is closed. Of course fighters don't want to schedule fight. They won't happen anyway.
     
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  6. m.s.

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    If it's competitive it goes to the golden goose. The writing was on The wall going into this series.
     
  7. m.s.

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    Your probably right. I think everybody is having wishful thinking. The reality is I can't see a fight in a big stadium anytime soon. I can see maybe a fight like GGG vs Szeremeta in no audience type fight like they had on shobox before the shutdown possibly to get the mandatory out of the way and stay active.
     
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  8. Scar

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    Again, lay off the twitter highlights of Golovkin devouring hopeless bums and use your head. I know it's almost impossible, but try.
     
  9. m.s.

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    You will never convince me of something I don't believe. I've seen both fights and your the one in the extreme minority here. Again, the writing was on the wall and everybody saw it coming. Adalaid Byrd blew the cover on that.
     
  10. shadow111

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    You've allowed yourself to be swept away with the Byrd card which is preventing you from looking at the bout rationally. You cannot let a judge's scoring cloud your view of what happened.

    This is the main problem that was created by her card, which has caused a lot of fans to jump to conclusions about what went on behind the scenes that are not based in reality. For there to be a robbery you'd need at least 2 judges to be way off in their scoring. Only 1 judge being way off doesn't create that, since you need a majority of 2 judges to determine the outcome.

    If there was some funny business going on behind the scenes to pay off judges which you seem to believe, then surely the judge involved wouldn't want to attract attention by producing such a wide scorecard in a match that was viewed as very close. It seems that your belief that the match wasn't close is based on Byrd's card being so off which makes no sense. Those two things don't relate to each other. Instead of going from one extreme to the other, all you need to do is go from one extreme to the middle which is a close match with a lot of hard to score rounds. The amount of hard to score rounds also may explain how Byrd scored it so wide. It could be as simple as she preferred the hard clean punching of Canelo to GGG's come forward approach which resulted in a lot of missed punches.
     
  11. m.s.

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    I was following this situation from the beginning, from Canelo saying he's too small to be a middleweight but weighing in on fight day 174 lbs while while competing at Canelo weight of 155lbs as shown on HBO, all the while GGG as a middleweight would come in fight day weighing 170lbs most of the time.
    Next Canelo gave up his belt and had Delahoya tell the media he would be ready to fight GGG in16 months. When the fight finally happened after going through the extremes with excuses and marination Golden boy wasn't about to let the Golden Goose lose unless he was knocked down and beat up or KOED. None of the above happened and it was competitive. On fight night I wasn't sure if the judges were going to steal GGGs belts like they did Kovalev vs Ward. Luckily they didn't. I like to watch a fight later with sound muted and complete focus and a score card.Doing that, the fight was easy to score. I had it clearly for GGG. The 2nd fight on fight night I had GGG by 2 points, and I thought the judges would give it to him. If somebody had it the other way that's ok it was a amazing fight.But the Golden goose got the benefit of the doubt both times and that is fishy and predictable. I also rewatch and score the fights several different times to make sure I'm clear on who I thought won. I respect all of you guys opinions though, that's part of boxing.
     
  12. iii

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    Walk away from the monitor, splash some cold water on your face, take a couple of deep breaths, pinch yourself, re-read the above.
     
  13. Scar

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    There's a reason Golovkin and his team barely complained after the rematch.
     
  14. m.s.

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    The Byrd score had no relevance to my scoring, But it was a Red flag as to what everybody already knew. The judge that had the fight a draw was crooked as well. In the end they got what they wanted and thats for Canelo to come out on top, by hook or by crook.
     
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  15. iii

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    fi ya na like it den die ,,,squawk boy