Bar set too high for Loma

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  1. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    If fans/nuthuggers are gonna be saying he's the best ever, then when he doesn't look great people are going to throw that in their face, and rightly so. It's the price you pay for not being objective and moderating your expectations. Other people are going to take that task upon themselves, and try to humble you.
     
  2. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Unbourboned by what has been Full Member

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    I agree. He should go back to 130 and clear it out.
     
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    JacK Rauber Unbourboned by what has been Full Member

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    I would say it was primarily Mark Kriegel but Bradley and Tess were agreeing with him to a degree. Pedraza was no slouch. He had much greater reach than Loma, good speed and was just a bigger guy all the way around. In other words, the 35-1 odds were complete BS. Pedraza was a live one.
     
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    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    LMAO at you trying to make it sound like it was this one sided beatdown, when it was competitive for many rounds. Also 2 weight champion? Why not describe as Tank's *****, a guy who wasn't even remotely competitive, and won 1 round against Tank due to him taking the round off? Tank almost killed Pedraza :risas3:
     
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    JacK Rauber Unbourboned by what has been Full Member

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    I used to hate listening to Atlas because he would drone on about basic stuff as though it was brilliant. It was funny when he and Kriegel got into it. Two alphas wanting the same turf. Now, Kriegel is getting as bad as Atlas was.
     
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    JacK Rauber Unbourboned by what has been Full Member

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    Agreed, but the fighters shouldn't have to be expected to live up to fans' expectations because, in most cases, they aren't the ones hyping themselves, fans and commentators are.
     
  7. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    It's all a result of Lomamania. You go back to earlier versions of this site and you get RJJ is the goat threads where everyone was losing their ****. Then we had a decade of Floyd is the goat threads where everyone slurpped his balls and lost their ****. Now, it's Loma's turn.

    Personally, I think Ezzard Charles would **** RJJ up. And I think that Aaron Pryor or Roberto Duran would make easy work of Floyd. But those kinds of opinions don't thrive in these kinds of volatile environments. You can say them safely now, and they become more common place with each passing year, but during Floyd or Roymania you could catch hell for saying such things.

    There was a day when you couldn't talk **** about Terry Norris until there was a day you could. Loma's hour won't last forever, and the people who raise him on their shoulders today will be the first to trample him under for their new idol tomorrow. You're destined to get caught up in these cycles if all you perceive is the present moment and have no sense of history.
     
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    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Loma does a fine job hyping himself all on his own though.
     
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    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    When you are universally recognized by basically everybody alive as p4p #1 the bar is high.
     
  10. Gil Gonzalez

    Gil Gonzalez Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Loma is now campaigning at a weight where the other belt holders are bigger than him. He does not have the same power at this weight. Still, he did what champions do, he found a way to win. People who complain about how Loma won don’t understand boxing.
     
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    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If that two weight champion had been hitting Loma with the same conviction that the so called cripple was hitting Crawford with them Loma might not have been around to tell the tale. Plus that same two weight champion got brutally abused and stopped by a fighter with a third of Loma's experience. The Loma sack swinging is real.
     
  12. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    If you can make God bleed, people will cease to believe in Him. There will be blood in the water, and the sharks will come.
     
  13. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    He can obviously still train and fight...

    And people have recovered fully from gunshot wounds. As Benavidez proved himself(whether he is 100%, 80% or 50% is up for debate).
     
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    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Let's wait and see how his career pans out. For now, he is one of the most talented fighters I have seen in decades. He is masterful in the ring. And yes, coming off a 270 degree labrum tear, his first fight back is a world title unification, so well, excuse me, but I do not recall a Champion EVER doing that in my (long) time as an observer of the sport. 13 pro fights 12 for titles.

    What a bonehead thread.
     
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    Fight wasn't close though...