Barbados Joe Walcott vs. Mickey Walker

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  1. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Would the Barbados Demon lay the Toy Bulldog out? Or would Mickey do what Kid Lavigne did and outfight Joe? Or would Walke choose to do what he did in the 2nd Ace Hudkins fight and box Walcott to stay away from his power? Anyway, would be a marvelous fight I guess.
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Walker to survive some terrible moments and shade it I think.
     
  3. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lavigne didn't out-fight Joe. Well, I suppose you could say he outfought an out of form (I've heard he had a pretty significant injury) Joe in the rematch, but the first fight was fixed from the beginning, all parties involved. Walcott won a good 10 of the 15 rounds, but if there was no KO the fight automatically went to Lavigne.

    Anyways, I'd wager Walker would go the Hudkins route and opt to out-box Walcott. He would succeed.
     
  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Did Walker chose the Hudson route though? If he was carrying Ace in this fight, what's to say he would ever actually box in that manner?

    What's the injury Joe was meant to be carrying in II? All the headlines i've seen trumpet about it being a straight-up win (stressed in the light of the first fight).
     
  5. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    All the **** I read back in the day points otherwise. I totally forget the injury, in fact it may've been something to do with his legs. Ask Senya to dig those articles up for you. You guys are better at finding them than me. The general consensus seemed to be that Walcott was definitely not in the best of form, at least by those in the know at the time. I've seen the other articles, too, which are probably the ones you saw. I find it very hard to believe that Lavigne could out-fight an in-shape Walcott.

    As for the Hudkins point, I didn't know he was carrying him. I'd wager if there was more footage of Walker we'd probably see a lot more of his versatility, though.
     
  6. McGrain

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    He had very bad cramps in his legs (allegedly) in the first fight, certainly. The second fight, I don't know. Lavigne was an incredible ******* of a fighter himself, a horrific puncher, and tough as they come, as you well know. I too doubt he beat up on the prime version (in fact there was a struggle to make weight from memory) but he wouldn't have to be very far from his best against a fighter like that in my honest opinion. Remember that West, a pressure fighter, fought Joe in absolutely horrific wars of attrition, swapping hellish beatings. Lavigne is better than West I'd bet.


    Walker proved his versatility to me in the Hudkins fight, my point is that Walker may never have chosen to fight in this manner...I think he'd be furnace bound personally, but his superior boxing skill would see him edge it out. Fight to the finish or something awful like that....I don't know.
     
  7. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Is that what it was? Just weight-making, flat out? I guess I was confusing his ailments for the two fights.

    I don't know enough about that (haven't read much from him outside of the Walcott fights). I do know that he was a good deal bigger than Lavigne, though.

    Well, I think it's quite possible that Walcott flat out forces him to do so. Then again, if this bout's at Welterweight, I don't know if I even would favour Walker, as I tend to think he hit his full stride at Middle.
     
  8. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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  9. janitor

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    This could get exciting.
     
  10. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    i gotta go with walker. relentless, furiously strong, nearly as good a hitter as walcott.
     
  11. janitor

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    I would suggest that Walcott benefits if the fight is at welterweight, while a middleweight or catchweight setting might favour Walker.
     
  12. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hm, you think there is a big difference between the mw Walker and the one in his latter ww career? Or you think it is size?
     
  13. janitor

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    A bit of both. Walcott was never much bigger than a welterweight even when he fought at middleweight, and he was able to make that weight prety much throughout his career.

    Setting the ***ht at 147 would definitely help his cause. If we set it at a catchweight of 154, then there would be more Walker options.
     
  14. gregluland

    gregluland Boxing Addict Full Member

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    They both have great power I believe,... hard question this, I've seen how FAST Walker was as WW but I have no idea of Walcotts speed was. I think I will probably listen to those who saw both fight. As far as I know, Walcott was rated higher (please correct me if I'm wrong),,,,, so I will respect their judgement,.... Walcott on points 15.
     
  15. gregluland

    gregluland Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wasn't Walcott just 5 foot 1 inches ?