Barker - 'Macklin's not in my league'

How in the name of fúck that wasnt a DQ or put down as a NC I'll never know.

Didint dodgy Dave remember laying his paw on the fighters arms to split them up prior to the punch - fúck me! :verysad

 

The reason I said 'could have been DQ'd' is that you could argue that Barker was throwing the punch as Parris shouted break. It wasn't obvious like Bika recently.

Still it should have been a NC at least.

 

to be fair, Samuels was still coming forward and throwing when Barker came back with that shot. It should of been a No Contest but not a DQ.

this was the fight before Barkers brother died.

 

Samuel caught him

Barker touched down

Sameul came forward

Parris called "stop boxing"

Sameul dropped his hands and stopped boxing

Parris was putting his arm between the two to administer a count then Barker threw the punch at an unguarded Samuel.

Thats the order of events.

If Samuel can hear Parris make the call and react to it then surely Barker could also.

It wasnt a legitimate knockdown and the fight ended because of an illegal blow. Therefore the ref has to make the decision with regards to see if the punch was intentionally thrown after the call and decide if it was a DQ or a recommendation for a NC.

It's a tough call between the two but one thing is for certain that it was an utter disgrace that he was given a KO victory for that punch.

Add it to the list of Dave's dodgy decision.

 

It's a NC for me, the punch happens so quickly after the call that'd be too harsh to disqualify Barker for it but at the same time how it was given as a Barker ko astounds me. That's exactly how I felt about that situation from the second that shot landed to right now.

Jamie Moore got disqualified against Michael Jones in similar circumstances, although in the end that was probably a good thing as it meant we got that fabulous 3rd fight between them.

 

lol I love how your version of events is completley different to what actually happens.

Barker touches down and gets back up. Samuels goes right aftet him and throws another shot. Barker throws his and before it lands we get a half hearted break from Paris. Its all the refs fault not Barkers.

 

It's not barkers fault it seemed instinctive,but a NC should have been ruled samuels had stopped at the refs call

 

Having looked at the replay - He did seem to drop his hands on the ref's orders.
I don't think Barker cheated though because he was in Automatic mode and it was not intentional. If I had been the ref I would have given them 5 minutes and deducted a point from Barker but I guess because he was KO'd the Doctor would not allow that right?

 

Not a hope it would be allowed to continue. The ref and the doctor wouldn't allow it. If Samuels was fine then 5 minutes recovery would be a good option but he obviously wasn't!

 

Which part of the sequence of events are you saying are either incorrect or not in the correct order.

Go through it one by one.

 

Exactly, Samuels reacts to the refs orders and Barkers shot is after the refs orders. Thats not up for question. Its the same as throwing a shot after the bell in my mind. If the shot it thrown before the bell or as the bell is rung then its legit. If the shot is thrown after the bell then its an illegal blow. In that case, if the fight ends as a result, the ref needs to make the judgement of intention before declaring either a no contest or a DQ.

I would love to know if that decision was appealed.

On the five minute break issue - that fight couldn't have continued after a heavy knockout like that, its not like a low blow.

 

Exactly..there's a definite break between the ref's call and the punch. I don't blame Barker as he was just tagged by a decent shot. Clear NC.

 

The part highlighted is competley different to what happens. Samuels and Barker are never aware of the refs calls and actions. Samuels hands are down because he has just thrown a wild punch and is off balance.

As Ian Darke says, Barkers punch has already been thrown by the time the ref says stop boxing/break.

 

Well if ****** said it then it must be true.

Interesting that everyone else on here that has seen the slow mo states that Samuels does react to Parris' order.

There was a big gap between the time Sameuls landed his punch and Barkers threw his so its bullshít to state that Samuels was still in a follow-through motion when he got hit with the illegal punch.

Parris doesnt need to get his arms between the fighters to stop the fight (although it is good practice) - his vocal command is enough. He does however attempt to put his arm between the fighter AFTER the vocal command and that is when Barker threw the punch.

I cant watch the YouTube clip here but Parris could even be touching Samuels glove when the punch lands.

I am not having a pop at Barker here I am having a go at Parris. Obviously Barkers scenes were scrambled to some degree when he threw the punch but how can Parris make a call and a motion towards a fighter to give a count and then see the opposing fighter throw a punch after his call to stop and award that fighter a KO victory?

It is beyond belief.

 

I full disagree and I have read this thread and far from everyone agrees with you.

either way......who cares. barker would of just got up to stop him in the next 3-4 rounds anyway.

what it does proove is that barker is not chinny as some claim.