Barnes looked like **** to me. He doesnt put anything on his punches and fights like his in an amateur point scoring or in a heated sparring session. He has no second gear. I used to like this kid but his found his level.
To be honest, I thought Barry Morrison did enough to win the fight. Oh & before anyone accuses me of being biased, remember I admitted Lynes just deserved the W against Morrison. Now back to the fight in question, what the hell dis Barnes do to win by wide UD? Morrison was all over him from the first round onwards, Morrison made the fight while Barnes just ran & threw the odd punches here & there. Morrison was coming forward, & landed to the head & body regularly. Barnes landed back, but they were half hearted shots from a guy who was just there to survive. Morrison busted Barnes face up, had him bleeding from the nose & had two cuts around his eyes. Morrison didnt have a mark on him. Barnes knew that all he had to do was go the distance & he would get a favour from the usual three english judges. As usual, it stunk. & Barnes post fight interview was worse, he came across like a right scumbag, didnt give Morrison an ounce of credit like he was some world class operator. Lynes? A classy guy after his fight with Morrison, Barnes though was a dick. I lost much respect for him tonight, & I speak as a person who met him a few years back & thought the world of him. Cant believe Barnes was so disrespectful afterwards. hes been watching too much Sugar Ray Clay Jones jnr on Bunceys show probably, thats the only explanation I can muster up after he acted like such a big shot after the fight. Oh & before anyone tells me that the commentary team had barnes winning, I stopped taking boxing commentators opinions seriously years ago. Adam Smith is some public schoolboy who knows nohing about the sport & patronises boxing fans with tired old boxing cliches, & Jim Watt? He just backs the fighter who SKY have the most money invested in.
I disagree Dunky, I felt in the main Barnes outboxed Morrison, and through the early to mid portions of the fight landed the much cleaner and numerous amount of shots . Morrison didn't land too much clean till later on in fight(although I did give him round 3 aswell as either 4/5 can't remember which) . He had a big round 10 landing some hard right hands but then got out boxed by Barnes again . Barnes didn't come forward, but then again he didn't have to . Infact the only time he did come forward jabbing he actually left himself much more open . No offence meant Dunk but I feel you may have let bias get to you, as I remember you scoring Morrison as the winner against Mutu aswell and imo(generally everyones) Mutu boxed a lovely fight against Morrison and definitely got the better of it . Morrison done the best he could but I don't think you could really give him 7 rounds from tonights fight . Very classless from Barnes alright, if he wants to challenge someone levels above this then he shouldn't be struggling at this level . I'd be very interested to see how he deals with Colin Lynes or Gianluca Branco . Infact I wouldn't mind seeing Paul McCloskey show him something or two about slick boxing if he gets past Nigel Wright, though I'd much prefer Paul go for the European title than the British .
No offence taken Bigears, how could I take offence to one of the best posters on Brit ESB? Thing is though my good man, I thought Barnes work was all done on the back foot, his punches never troubled Morrison who simply walked through them. Morrison came forward, bullied & bossed the fight against the hometown fighter. Even at the end, the puchstats told that both had equal accuracy, & IMO Morrison landed all the powershots. Did Barnes even land a hard punch on Morrison the whole fight? look. I have no problem admitting if the better man won, but no way Barnes bossed that fight. He was pretty awful IMO, & if that fight was in America Morrison would have won that fight easily. David Barnes thought he was going to beat Morrison easily, & thats why he was full of excuses after the fight cos he knew Baz bossed him. "oh I had a sore rib & a sore hand & I couldnt get up for fighting a scotsman" Barnes was such a knob, I cant wait to see him destroyed. He knew all he needed to do was survive to win last night. & survive he did. Morrison can be proud of his effort, but unless he landed the KO, he was never going to win this fight. When will Gilmour ever learn about sending scots fighters into the belly of the beast?? & McLoskey better be in top form againt Wright Biggy, or hes going to get the old UD against him also. You have been warned.
I agree with dunky, I had Barnes taking the first 2 then Barry took the next 4 imo. I had it 7-5 to Bazza at the end and was far from surprised when the 3 native judges had it against barry coz even with a KO barry would have been lucky to get the draw.
I also noticed that a large majority of Barnes jabs landed a few inches away from the target and last time I checked......you dont get points for hitting air lol
Cheers Kerrminator, its good to know that I am not the only one who sees through all the bull****. Morrison charges forward the whole fight, lands all the big powershots & Barnes wins by UD??? 3 english judges & an english ref, & while Im at it,what was the ref continually pulling Morrison up for? Barnes continually threw Morrison to the floor, & not a word of warning. Corrupt as ****. If I had it my way, no scottish fighter would ever fight for a british or commonwealth title ever again. Cos they dont get a fair crack of the whip from the english judges. maybe I should take up being a fight promoter, cos I could guarantee that if scottish fighters avoided the 'traditional' route that robs our fighters more often than not, we would have a lot more world champions by now. For goodness sake, Willie Limond floors Khan for 13 seconds & he still dont get the win!!! Sorry for ranting & raving, but this defeat is hurting my scottish ass. Cos it was undeserved. Lynes deserved to beat Morrison, but that lazy **** Barnes stole a totally undeserved win:twisted:
The fights in the Republic Dunky, they can't rob us :yep One Irish referee appointed by the BUI will score the bout, however with that said bar Dunne v Machado(where I though Machado won a couple of rounds) I don't remember any Irish ref ever scoring favourably towards the Irish fighter, normally it's they're kind to the foreign fighter . Such as scoring Campas v Macklin 98-95 and McCloskey v Garnica 98-93 , when both won it much more clearly(McCloskey clearly won every round) . If McCloskey v Wright finished 5 rounds a piece I'd favour the Englishman to get the decision but I've faith in McCloskey, he'll win it clear . Since Kerriminator also thinks Morrison won aswell I might have a look at the replay again to make sure , but tbh it wasn't the most exciting of fights so don't be surprised if I don't bother .
Just cos I respect you BIGEARS, doesnt mean I hang on your opinion. You underestimate my scottish ass. Wouldnt life be sweet if I loved everyone who agreed with me?
They never troubled him because Barnes never earnt Morrisons respect. His pitter pattering was just annoying. And his cocked left did nothing if even to counter Morrison. Personally i gave it to Morrison for the better body of work making the fight and landing the harder punches. I dont agree with the scoring at all. One judge had it as wide as 116-111.
I think Morriosn was def the better of the two .although he did seem to slip alot of the time! i think he done enough to at least earn a rematch .
I agree Morrison was coming forward for much of the fight, but that was only because Barnes was allowing him to do it. Why should he change tactics which were working as he was hitting Morrison with counter punches all night. Boxing is by and large judged on punches being landed, you don't get extra points for the more powerful shots. Morrison looked the more aggressive fighter because he was coming forward, but he only landed singles shots, apart from the tenth round. At times Barnes was picking apart Morrison, who looked one dimensional. Morrison hasn't learnt any lessons from the Colin Lynes fight as he does not know how to change his tactics mid-fight if things aren't going well. Also you can't judge the winner of the boxing fight on how someone's face is looking afterwards. Some people mark up easier than others, it has nothing to do with who landed the most punches. Barnes won the fight clearly, although I admit it wasn't easy. He landed the most punches and at times he handed Morrison a boxing lesson. People that called it pitter patter don't understand the subtleties of the sport. It isn't all knockdowns and power shots.
i'd agree with that. morrison did have some success in the later rounds, but for most of the fight he was coming forward, yes, but he was lunging and being timed coming in. look at the amount of times barnes just spun out of the way and morrison ended up between the ropes as his lunges missed. the harder shots in the fight were being landed by morrison, but the focus on the power left him looking one dimensional. It would've been a good tactic had they been having an effect on barnes, and making him apprehensive to throw him own shots, but bar a few rounds, that wasnt the case. i think it's a shame barnes didnt fight more on the front foot as he did do some good work when not backing up, but i guess his fight plan worked even if it did make for a terrible fight.
Well the man himself has posted and he thinks he lost. Cleaner, better work from Barnes, quite easy to see. Unbelievable biased nonsense from the Scots in this thread I'm afraid, it's tedious. Commentators (including a Scot) - support the house fighter. Other people in thread - biased. Judges - cheats. Losing fighter himself? What's your excuse for HIM holding his hands up?