Barrera - His Highest Possible Ranking?

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  1. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I think Morales would beat Gomez at 122. :good
     
  2. Mantequilla

    Mantequilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Morales is an unskilled labourer compared to Wilfredo.;)
     
  3. DINAMITA

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    I genuinely believe Gomez would stop Morales in rather brutal fashion - and I'm a Morales fan.
     
  4. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    :lol: I'm sorry, but let's forget nostalgia and get back to reality. Morales isn't getting stopped by anybody at 122lb. Not even by the great Wilfredo Gomez.
     
  5. Minotauro

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    Gomez would give Barrera a lesson he was the better boxer, better defence, footwork, finisher, quicker and had much more power. Barrera and Morales would both lose to Gomez probably via stoppage at 122 at the higher weights their chances would increase.

    A win over a prime Saddler is 10x better Sandy is a top 20 p4p fighter and probably second greatest featherweight. Saddler was in his prime as well and a very difficult style for Pep who was past his best that is one of the biggest wins period much greater then a win over Hamed. (Not to take anything away from Barrera as it is still a big win but ain't got much on Pep's over Saddler.)
     
  6. Addie

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    Gomez would not be giving out a boxing lesson to Marco at 122lb. I think Barrera had better handspeed that Wilfero at his peak, and his combination punching and variety in his offensive arsenal had more range. I think it's important to realise that Marco was also a world class fighter, as was Wilfredo who just had more power. In my estimation, if Marco had the power of a Gomez, he'd have been crowned the greatest 122lb fighter of all time. Marco was a complete fighter, but he didn't have concussive KO power like Gomez.

    I would pick Gomez to probably stop Marco at 122lb, but I don't see him stopping or even beating the more dynamic Morales.
     
  7. DINAMITA

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    Such immaturity. Even if you don't believe Gomez could stop Morales, it very obviously is not such a laughable belief to justify a hilarious smiley. On any given night, Wilfredo Gomez could knock out ANYONE who ever fought at 122. Of course he could, he is one of the hardest hitters p4p in history. Bob Foster at 175, Gomez at 122, Ketchel at 160, etc etc - these guys had dynamite in their hands, they could KO anyone their size if they catch them with the right punch. Given how fast, furious and frenetic a Gomez v Morales fight would be, I feel pretty sure that Gomez would catch Morales with the right punch at one point, and even if someone with a chin like Morales did not crumple from a single shot (though Morales's chin is not as good as it is made out to be - see Morales v Barrera I for evidence, then compare Barrera's power to that of Gomez), he would be badly hurt by Gomez and Gomez was a superb finisher. Demean this reasoning all you want with idiotic smiley-faces, but many learned fans would agree with this opinion.
     
  8. Addie

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    I stopped reading after "such immaturity". Rephrase your response without resorting to your usual bull**** DINAMITA, and I shall happily read what you have to say.
     
  9. Minotauro

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    No way did Barrera have more variety or better combination then Gomez and Wilfredo had a better offensive arsenal very few fighters can match Wilfredo in terms of combination or arsenal. He is up there with the very elite in those catergories like Arguello, Louis, Moore and Robinson. Watch some more prime Gomez at 122 as great as Marco is he has very little over Gomez.

    Wilfredo didn't just have more power he set them up better and was a better finisher he was one of the most complete fights I've ever seen at his best.
     
  10. Addie

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    Show me video evidence displaying Gomez's offensive variety.
     
  11. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I don't see how anybody could have gave Morales round 9. He was hurt on 3 different occasions in that round.
     
  12. Minotauro

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    watch his fight with Zarate for starters
     
  13. DINAMITA

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    Nah. Remove your childish smileys and your trademark arrogant dismissive tone from the message I was replying to, and I will happily enlighten you. One of these days you are going to grow up hopefully.
     
  14. stevebhoy87

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    Here's a little footage og gomez at his best, against carlos zarate and juan antonio lopez (footage quality's a bit poor i'm afraid), at least highlights how varied a fighter gomez was at his best

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  15. Addie

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    I love how you highlighted that. It also applies to the majority of your input at Eastside Boxing. I guess I learn from some fairly influential and knowledgeable individuals.