Barrera-Khan surgery..... let look at the FACTS and OPINIONS

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by brown bomber, Jan 21, 2009.


  1. johnny2sprouts

    johnny2sprouts Member Full Member

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    I agree as well. After the licks Khan took from Prescott, Frank Warren wouldn't stick Khan in with anyone who had a good shot. It disappointed me to see people talking about how Oisin ***an would be a good test for Khan.

    I would like to see Khan keep his head down and get on with it. Not going on Soccer AM on his way to a Freddie Roach training camp. What has he actually done in the game so far? Olympic Silver medal. None of the medal winners from Beijing have had smoke blown up their arses quite like Khan. He came through at a time when the government needed a poster boy for multi racial Britain which is fine but to a point but he's treated like he has conquered the world already. Nate Campbell would hand his arse to him on plate.
     
  2. Pug1list

    Pug1list Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Probably because he was 17 at the time, quite an accomplishment.
     
  3. ishy

    ishy Loyal Member Full Member

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    Benitez was a world champ at 17 ;).
     
  4. izzy

    izzy New Member Full Member

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    i think frank warrens had enough of amir khan.
     
  5. johnny2sprouts

    johnny2sprouts Member Full Member

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    That's a fair point. I just think he's been blown out of all proportion. The British mainstream media don't seem to notice the difference between the amateurs and the pros and the different skill sets required to do well in both. Khan comes second with bigger gloves and a head guard and people assume that he's going to take over the world. It's a very British thing to do. Watch them coat him off if he comes unstuck against Barrera. I don't particulalry blame Khan. If my boss continued to tell me my performance was great even though there was massive holes in it I'd believe I was the world's greatest travel agent, (which I'm patently not but don't say it too loud, I've gota baby to feed). I was surprised Freddie Roach took him on but this is make or break I think. He'll be fighting Irish cabbies if he's not careful, (assuming Oisin isn't a cabby).
     
  6. robpalmer135

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    jeff im gonna be a twat and counter your opinions

    Opinion-Barrera Khan will lead the winner into a world title fight, no doubt. Khan wins Nate Campbell will be heavily compensated to vacate. Barrera wins I think Nate hangs on to he title.

    I do not think Warren is wary of putting Khan in with Campbell, more the fact that his mandatories would be against guys like Guzman, Marquez, Diaz, Katsidis and so on.

    Opinion- Barrera hasn't put in a 'typical Barrera' performance since the beating Paulie Ayala..... wait for it... just short of five years ago.

    Barrera was always hit and miss.

    Opinion- Barrera has always struggled with fighters who can match his workrate and speed.

    true

    Opinion- He was outgamed by Marquez and Pacman because he hasn't got 'it' anymore.

    They are two of the best fighters in the world. he was competative in both fights.

    Opinion- Barrera has neither the attitude or style required to beat Khan. He will be out maneuvered, outworked and may even wave the white flag, pacman style.

    although Khan has allot of KO's they are all stopages. he is not a devastating puncher. will khan be able to hit barerra enough times to hurt him. khan has never been near the skills of barerra without a headgaurd on.

    Opinion- Just because the WBO still rate Barrera doesn't mean anyone else has to.

    who gives a **** about the WBO

    Opinion- Barrera Vs Khan could turn out to be a horrible mis match.

    this could be true either way


    the main fact i am considering is that no matter how much khan has improved, if barrera catches him, which he will, khan will go down. barrera will not let him of the hook like gomez and limmond did.
     
  7. LeadLeftHook

    LeadLeftHook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Agreed Barrera is past his prime. Barely over a year ago, Barrera fought Pacquiao in a competitive fight, in which Barrera did much better second time than when they a few years back in which he was demolished by Pacman. Next, Barrera fights a journeymen and does what he is supposed to do TKO 4.

    But can someone explain to me why is he considered 'so faded' that Khan who has never even come close to fighting anyone as skilled as Barrera should be able to beat him is now almost a given? Add to the fact that Khan was brutally KOed in 60 seconds only 6 months ago by a guy who everyone thought would be a walkover including the so called ESB experts. I think Barrera will win this easily as Khan has never seen anyone like him.
     
  8. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Puglist thinks hard and responds: who the ****s benitez, i didn't think boxing had been invented before amir khan. :D
     
  9. izzy

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    i agree, everyone seems to be forgetting also about khans appauling chin. he hasnt got one. and with all the mistakes he makes i would have thought barrera will have a field day wether he's shot or not.
     
  10. zico2010

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    He's also a fairly nice, articulate, good-looking kid who comes across well on the telly. A lot of boxers tend to come across as dull, monosyallbic chavs. This makes a big difference in why guys like Khan get a lot of press, and guys like John Murray - no offence meant to JM - dont.
     
  11. Pug1list

    Pug1list Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just wiking it at the moment, i want to be an expert like you.
     
  12. Pug1list

    Pug1list Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah John Murray does come across as bit of an oaf.
     
  13. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Thats not been a twat rob- thats having an opinion and the fact you qualify your opinion the best you can is why I like most of your posts.

    Point 1- Nate Campbell?

    Campbell by being frenetic, tough, powerful and experienced is the worst possible opponent for Khan. He is old too and doesn't have the star quality to allow Khan to return saying 'oh well i got beaten by a legend'..... Khan-Cambell is a no goer.

    Point 2- Barrera was always hit and miss?

    Silly statement. He was an incredible fighter in his prime and consitantly devstating as a super bantam. He suffered a brief dip in form when losing to Jones but returned to form in devestating fashion in various fights after. He changed his style from brawler to boxer with great success and until the first Pacman fight was arguably one of the most consistant performers in the sport.

    Point 3- Barrera been outgamed?

    Yes they were outstanding fighters Rob but what seperated them form Barrera? There desire to win, barrera boxed well within himself against both Marquez and Pacman. Marquez won eight of 12 rounds and had he not been knocked down the fight would have been even more one sided. Barrera had a couple of decent moments against Pacman but he was outworked and outboxed by a fighter who wasn't in his league prime for prime. Barrera was content to last the distance.

    Point 4- Khans power?

    I feel its under-rated. Speed kills and Khans accuracy and snap coupled with Barreras reduced reflexes make a stoppage possible. I liked your point about Barreras skill set.... for me thats what makes this fight interesting... But I don't think Barrera will come to win. If he trains properly and is desperate to win, he will take Khan out.
     
  14. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    You'll need more then wiki and boxrec to match me sweetcheeks:good
     
  15. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Really? He sounds like a fighter hungry to suceed to me? But your the expert.