Barrera, Morales, Marquez, Pacquaio. The best fighter?

having jmm over ANY of those three is an absolute travesty...what the hell is wrong with you people?

 

Those who have put JMM on top have stated reasons......
Pick them apart!

......my guess is that you know so little of JMM that you cant even begin to pick apart his strenghths and weaknesses!

 

its simple...put all 4 fighters top wins against eachother=

Morales:
Pac - atg
Barrera - atg
Ayala - great fighter
Jones - very good fighter, beat mab twice
Zaragoza - very good fighter
Hernandez - good fighter
Chavez - very good fighter, titlistin 2 weights
Chi - good fighter
Kelly - good fighter, but past prime
McColough - good fighter
***in my opinion #1 of the 4

Barrera:
Morales - atg
Hamed - very good fighter
Ayala - very good fighter
Tapia - very good fighter, but past prime
McKinney - very good fighter
Agapito Sanchez - good fighter
Toledo - good fighter
Kelly - good fighter, way past prime
Peden - good fighter


Pac:
Barrera- atg, past prime for second fight
Morales- atg, past prime
Larios- good fighter
Julio- good fighter
Hussein- decent-good fighter
Sasakul- good fighter
Ledwaba- good fighter

JMM:
Barrera- atg, past prime
Gainer- good fighter
Medina- good fighter, way past prime
Peden- good fighter
Sanchez- good fighter




***there we go folks, for those who found it necessary to spell out the obvious...look at those lists. Now, honestly, who has the AUDACITY to say that JMM is ANYWHERE but behind morales, barrera and pac?

 

On pac's resume im about to post it to show to divac that prior to mab, (till you showed it there) Pac did have a worthy opposition on julio, ledwaba,undefeated lucero and sasakul and even sanchez b4 mab. I dare say pac was beating on agapito till agapito resorted to ALL the dirty tactics in the dirty book just to get even. So i will also add agapito there, though just a draw, experience-wise for pac.

 

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Divac

 

Pacquiao
Barrera
Morales
Marquez

 

Pac:
Barrera- atg, past prime for second fight
Morales- atg, past prime
Larios- good fighter
Julio- good fighter
Hussein- decent-good fighter
Sasakul- good fighter
Ledwaba- good fighter

you have to mention the manner of beating my friend....

i am quite surprised nobody mentioned this.

mab kissed the canvass 2 officially ko, 1 overlooked ko, and 1 tko.
em kissed the canvass 4 kos, 2 overlooked ko (holding the ropes) and tkos.
larios- cant remember how many kissing. once i guess
julio- he was brutally raped. couple of kos.
hussein - cant remember this fight
sasakul- he is not just a good fighter, hes close to atg. he defended it couple of times until pac hit him on the throat and he lighted out.
ledwaba- considered pound per pound, he got raped by pac and too many kos. pac got 2 weeks notice

you see, if you put all the ko's and tko's courtesy of pac, it is mind boggling. so what do you think? how did mab, em, jmm beat their opponent? yes they are good technically, but the 1-d pac raped his opponents. how will you consider the manner of beating the opponents vs technically superior fighting? which weighs more? pac did beat the 3 and all 3 kissed the canvass courtesy of pac. (jmm got a gifted 10-7 and pac sprained his fist and with blisters, em got a gifted head butt).
pac deserves more i guess

 

Since you are a DIE HARD JMM fan I forgive/understand that you would put JMM ahead of PAC but putting Pac in the last of the LIST?!?!

Man oh Man! I don't you you have been watching PAC's fights with MAB and Morales. He beat Mab 2x and he beat Morales 2-1 and the last two wins was REALLY DEVASTATING almost making Morales retire.
I can't really get your REASONING.

Now, if in case pac wins on their MARCH 08' FIGHT. Meaning, he has beaten ALL THE ABOVE FIGHTERS and you will CLAIM he is the least SKILLFULL?! :huh :huh :huh :huh :huh :huh :huh :huh :huh :huh :huh :huh :huh :huh :huh :huh :huh :huh :huh :huh :huh :huh :huh :huh :huh :huh :huh :huh :huh :huh :huh :huh :huh

He is one common DINAMINATOR which DEFEATED Mab, Morales and JMM and he is NOT THE BEST among the four?! Yes, pac lost to Morlales on the first fight but have you seen HOW DOMINATING the wins of pac of morales in their figth 2 and 3 ?!?! How about the wins of pac of Mab?! How can you ever IGNORE THAT TREMENDOUS TALENT?!

You a million miles away compared to Black about the decency to write but PUTING PAC on number 4 among the four is just a simple SIGN of being a PAC hater wether YOU ADMIT it or NOT:hey

 

skills, talent, versatility, etc. mean nothing if you don't test it against the best out there. if you fight mostly b to c-level opposition, your skills even if they're not that great in the first place can still look great and be over-rated.

in pac's case, both sasakul and ledwaba were very good fighters. sasakul was even the lineal champ, "the man" @112 when pac KO'd him. while pac ko'd the champ ledwaba on two weeks notice.

lucero and velasquez are good fighters and should also appear in pac's resume.

 

Morales.

 

Morales has the best resume of the four.


Marqez is good but he doesnt have any big wins. Pacman is good as well but doesnt have as good resume back at the lower weights and caught the others in the twighlight of their careers. He cant really be judged yet until later as he still has alot left at this point. Barrera officially has two wins over Morales, though all 3 fights are close and debateable. I still put Morales ahead of Barrera because he has a better resume outside of their 3 head to head fights.


I think its really unfortunate that Morales never got to fight Hamed or Marquez. Both would have been good fights and added alot to Morales legacy if he would have gotten wins over them.

 

1. Pacquiao
2. Barrera
3. Morales
4. Marquez

But following the criteria of the first post...

1. Marquez
2. Barrera
3. Pacquiao
4. Morales

 

JMM should be last he has done nothing and avoided the best fighters his whole career