Barrera V Morales I

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Cobrinha, Nov 19, 2011.


  1. Cobrinha

    Cobrinha New Member Full Member

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    Just got around to watching this fight in full (I know unbelievable that I hadn't seen this but was only 9 at the time they fought and hadn't seen it's entirety). I know it's a highly regarded fight between two warriors but I want to know your thoughts on the technical aspects of the fight. How did Marco negate Erik's reach advantage to get close up and land his shots. What were the most important shots of the fight? Erik's jab? Marco's left hook? As a matter of fact we could talk about the trilogy as a whole and what made the difference for both fighters.
     
  2. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    I've always thought Marco being better at punching from all-ranges was a big factor in more seeming to have him as the winner of the trilogy than Erik.Shortening his punches up in particular was somewhere he had a clear edge.

    Morales had the physical tools and subsequent long straight punching arsenal to control things from the outside in theory(and did for stretches of the fights especially the rematch)but his aggressive approach to ring-generalship and leaky defence smothered those attributes to an extent.

    Still, a great trilogy between two well-matched and overall similarly talented fighters.
     
  3. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Morales lack of ring generalship and the ease that Barrera was aloud to come to mid range to get his punches off is what gives MAB the success time and again. In the second fight both fighters were happy to box outside Morales and had his greatest success. But that was more Barrera being negative than Morales keeping him outside. Barrera really had a weakness against quick outfighters and if Morales had the skills to keep it at this range he could win all those fights, but he didn't. Morales lack of defence and lateral movement and Barrera's better defence is another reason MAB found the edge over the 3 fights
     
  4. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Barrera was largely able to take Morales' right hand away by rolling with it or blocking it. Morales also reached a lot with his punches, and fell in sort of off-balance, whereupon Barrera would make him pay for it.
     
  5. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Good point
     
  6. MagnaNasakki

    MagnaNasakki Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Morales also abandoned any sort of boxing strategy whenever he got hit. He always tried to trade back when he got whacked, and 9 of 10 times got thrashed for it.

    He had success when he used his length and his feet. Barrera won most of the firefights between the two, by a not small margin.

    Part of the reason I found the decision in the first fight wrong. Even if you don't count the KD(You should, the ref called it), Marco did more damage, landed more hard shots and pressed the fight. Morales improved in the second fight by not fighting near as physically. Barrera turned the tables in the third, outboxing Morales for long stretches, which I doubt Erik was expecting.

    I give Erik the edge historically, but I've watched their fights many times, and MAB has the edge H2H between them. Styles.
     
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  7. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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  8. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    :lol:

    Chin, heart and overall fighting mentality really did make Morales.Moreso than most very good boxer-punchers.
     
  9. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    That combination rocked Morales' world. :D
     
  10. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Great posts guys.
     
  11. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That, and being quicker/better at punching in combination.
     
  12. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Barrera owns that kid.
     
  13. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I'm in the minority but I agreed with the judges in all 3 fights. (In terms of who took the decision)
     
  14. Jimbob

    Jimbob Active Member Full Member

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    Morales was trying to take Barrera's head off and would wind up and telegraph his right hand time after time.
     
  15. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    good posts lads, great fighters, great trilogy,