Barrera vs Carlos Gabriel Salazar (13-04-94)

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  1. Tin_Ribs

    Tin_Ribs Me Full Member

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    Curious fight vs the wily little Argie southpaw, if somewhat scrappy and not particularly pleasing to watch. I don't know who on here has seen it before and was wondering what people make of it as a win for Barrera. It was actually a WBC Super flyweight eliminator, but Barrera - perhaps somewhat unsurprisingly - didn't make the weight; he looks very big next to Salazar.

    I wonder how much of it was down to Barrera maybe being drained and relatively inexperienced, because he really seems to be struggling to get to grips with Salazar and the southpaw stance. I've never scored it round for round but I remember thinking that Barrera was perhaps fortunate to walk away with the decision, especially in Argentina. Not a robbery, but maybe very contentious?

    Barrera moves to close the distance quick enough, but Salazar keeps circling away and to Barrera's right, away from his left hand and just out of range of his right. He also manages to block, parry and slip a fair deal of Barrera's somewhat lacklustre efforts (though he does get hit too) and tie him up on the inside while scoring steadily with some looping, winging counters, especially with the left. He was negative though at times and did a fair bit of spoiling, so I wonder if that didn't impress the judges....

    Anyway here it is, for those who might be bothered.....

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    Who'd say it was a notable win for Barrera? I haven't seen Salazar's fights with Moon and Chitalada where he went the distance twice away from home, but he was more experienced than Barrera and went to achieve some form of success in the future with the alphabet belts, though the quality of opposition looks to have been somewhat dubious.
     
  2. Tin_Ribs

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    Come on Addie, you're the Barrera buff....
     
  3. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think Barrera had difficulty with south paws. I think he is naturally left handed so in his adopted stance he will have not much of a right hand.

    TBH I though Barrera beat Marquez, especially if you gave him that KD he deserved instead of taking a point away (ok he shouldn't have hit when down him but they never take a point away against the cash cow for doing it). When you look at Marquez now, it shows how good that performance was when people thought he was shot after Pacquiao.

    Am I right in thinking Junior Jones was a south paw as well?
     
  4. Tin_Ribs

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  5. Tin_Ribs

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    Well, this has been a proper success, hasn't it?
     
  6. Tin_Ribs

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    One more miserable jump start.....
     
  7. Dinamita85

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    im trying like mad to remember this fight but it cant be the one i thought it was because that ended in an 8th round ko haha, when i get home ill dig out barreras career set and rewatch it
     
  8. Goyourownway

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    Barrera had a fair bit of trouble with another southpaw spoiler in Jose Luis Valbuena a couple of years later when he was in his prime,if ya remember that one.People put that performance down to an "off night" but I'm not convinced.
     
  9. Tin_Ribs

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    Yeah, I remember it but haven't watched it in many a moon. I'll rewatch it and see, but do recall him struggling. Barrera did beat a lot of southpaws too though: Ayala, Cook, Croft, Sanchez, Toledo, Hamed, Magana etc.
     
  10. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    All of which, with the possible exception of Cook, were well beaten.

    I'll have to rewatch this one myself, Tin_Ribs. It's important to note that Marco at this point was only a baby at 20 and that he had failed to make weight. He started fighting at 122lbs after this bout. There isn't too much evidence to suggest Marco struggled with southpaws. Manny Pacquiao is Manny Pacquiao.
     
  11. Tin_Ribs

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    That was my point mate. I don't think the southpaw stance in and of itself bothered him either, just that Salazar and Valbuena (iirc) made very specific use of it with spoiling tactics.
     
  12. Vic-JofreBRASIL

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    Salazar was a good fighter, quite impressive to see that he fought Chitalada, Moon and Barrera without being stopped.
    His KO ratio is a bit deceptive btw, he had pretty good power especially with the right hand, though a bit inaccurate...