Barrera vs Morales I - Did you score for Morales?

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  1. Henke67

    Henke67 One of the 45% Full Member

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    I know what you mean but if the ref rules it a knockdown then, officially, it *is* a knockdown. Ignoring it means I'd have the fight a draw.

    What if there's a slip which the ref calls correctly but the judge thinks it was a kd? He can't really score it 10-8 can he? I know it's different since I'm watching it in the house and am free to score it any way I like but I usually go with the officials ruling, whether it's right or wrong.
     
  2. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Fight 2
    Rds - 1,2,4,5,7,8,10 & 11 Morales
    Rds - 6,9 & 12 Barrera
    Couldn`t split them in round 3

    8-3-1 Morales

    Terrible robbery that was scripted beforehand because Marco did so much complaining about the first fight + its harder to sell a trilogy if one guy is 2-0 up :deal
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    Fight 3
    Rds 2,4,7,8,11 & 12 Morales
    Rds 1,3,5,6,9 & 10 Barrera

    6-6 Even

    If anyone deserved the nod maybe Barrera did because he always had the lead in the fight & won round 6 stronger than Morales won any of his rounds but same as fight one, draw is the fairest result. The easiest fight to score round by round with rounds 3 & 4 being the hardest to score.
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  3. pound

    pound Coqui Radar Full Member

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    When will you ants realize that Morales has achieved immortality?
     
  4. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    I find it funny that u had morales winning the first fight , winning the second fight and the rubbermatch u had a draw lol. Now u cant be biased to morales? Look again its not hard to score in those 3 fights. Barrera deserve the decision in the 1st fight. Morales deserve the decision in the rematch. And barrera CLEARLY!! won the third fight. <<<Whoever disagree should slap themself.
     
  5. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    If I find the KD debatable myself & there is strong enough grounds to call a KD then I might side with the official but I thought that particular KD was bull**** so I overruled the officials :D

    Ps. I also thought Morales was denied a perfectly legit KD in round 7 of the 2nd fight, the body punch that caught Barrera a bit off balance, I thought with the KD aside that round was quite close so I gave it to Morales 10-9.... you can`t just deny a man a KD because his opponent was off balance, balance is part of boxing, its Barrera`s fault for being caught in that position, Morales done nothing illegal.

    So in short, I never recognised any of the KD`s... fair is fair.
     
  6. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    The only clear win by either man was the 2nd fight & it was given to the wrong guy.

    I have no problem with the results in fights 1 & 3 because they were both razor close wars.
     
  7. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Come on the 3rd fight was clearly barrera just like the 2nd fight was clearly for morales. Barrera deserve the decision in the first fight. And morales clearly took a knee after barrera hurt him but it isnt a knockown? If i recall when a fighter takes a knee, should it be a knockdown?
     
  8. PityTheFool

    PityTheFool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This.
    But I was always biased towards Barrera and unlike some on the forum,I admit I find it hard to score close fights where a particular favourite is involved objectively.
     
  9. pound

    pound Coqui Radar Full Member

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    You musta been one blind ass mafaka during the second fight. You don't see me sitting here looking biased as **** saying Barrera didn't win the 3rd fight, which he clearly did. And guess what, Morales clearly won the 2nd fight. The only clear victories between the two men were fights 2 and 3. Which respectively went to Morales and Barrera. The 1st fight was hands down a toss up. Y'all discrediting Morales game in this trilogy are full of it. No one can really sit here and say Barrera dominated the trilogy, nor Morales. If you look at it from an unbiased point of view, these guys stalemated. The trilogy is a majority draw.
     
  10. KasperLokz13

    KasperLokz13 Aztec Warrior Full Member

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    hell na foo. Barrera whiped his culo like a pinata homie.
     
  11. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    I scored the first fight for MAB razor close.

    The second fight was hands down boxistical domination by Erik Morales.
    This fight showed me that if Morales stays within the confines of a boxing gameplan with MAB, he dominates him, but it also showed me Morales lacks the true stamina that most ATG elites have.
    Of the mini-fab four, Morales' stamina ranks last imo.

    Fight three was the closest of all three, I scored it dead even
    The only complain I have of watching every one of these fights on the nights they happened, is that I had to sit through the nauseating cheerleading and Bias of HBO in Favor of their own pride and joy MAB.
     
  12. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Yes, I agree with this mostly.... no fighter showed complete superiority over the other H2H through 3 fights & those stupid ****wits that say MAB won all 3 fights were obviously sniffing glue during the 2nd fight, a clear Morales win, the clearest win of the trilogy IMO.
     
  13. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Morales stamina was never a problem in his prime, I think his workrate throughout the fight was always top notch & that went some way towards him looking the more gassed in the final round, he never preserved himself in order to save energy for a strong finish, he was confident in his conditioning & just went about his business in the same fashion every round. Most of those fights were Morales looked the worst for wear in the last round were fights he already had in the bag through his work in the first 11 rounds.

    I agree 100% though, those HBO dicksuckers are a ****ing disgrace, the bias in favour of MAB is shameful, all 3 fights their bull**** made me cringe.
     
  14. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Didnt hbo believe morales won the rematch? I swear just cause they thought barrera won the 1st fight and the 3rd fight doesnt mean they were a s4ck up to barrera LMFAO! I like to know how some knuckle heads thought the 3rd fight was a draw lol. I like to see the scorecards round by round in the 3rd fight because no way in hell morales won 6 rounds.
     
  15. PityTheFool

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    I've had this discussion with you before Bill,and if Pound chooses to read my post correctly he'll see that I'm admitting that I find it hard to score them objectively because Barrera is a particular favourite.
    I haven't watched II or III in a while but as memeory serves,I go with the general consensus that Barrera won the first and third fights with the second being more similar to the first in that neither man could complain about the decision.
    What I meant was that Morales doesn't have a clear win IMO,but again,I admit (unlike many on this forum) that I am biased towards Barrera,and I have no problem saying that.However,some of the bias towards Morales is ridiculous purely because many deny it's even there whilst having "Morales is God" (I'm paraphrasing and not attributing it to any one person) in their avatar.
    Too many are blatantly biased which is fine,but at least admit it.
    Barrera won the first fight by a round or two,the second could have gone either way with no complaints,and the third was the nearest thing to a clear win.
    I should've made it clearer that I felt Morales doesn't have a clear win IMO.