Barrera vs. Valero on the horizon

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  1. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pac has NEVER fought a young lion in his prime. He's made an entire career out of beating over the hill HOF fighters and I'm damn sick and tired of it. When Pac gets in the ring with Valero, Soto, Guzman, Guerrero, Diaz - ANY fighter who hasn't been thru umpteen wars and/or is middle aged he gets my respect. He hasn't earned being placed on the same level as young MAB or EM imho. He only took the JMM fight because he thought he was old and done too, but he got a surprise, and had no choice but to fight a rematch. Now he's running like crazy.
     
  2. DobyZhee

    DobyZhee Loyal Member

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    He does need to stop fighting old mexican guys, I agree with that statement.

    Pac should just call out Gamboa and Linares and call it a day. He's actually fighting above his natural fighting weight at 135.
     
  3. smoochp

    smoochp Da flyest1 Full Member

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    Whats good my dude?
     
  4. DobyZhee

    DobyZhee Loyal Member

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    nothin' much my man. I miss Vegas and the boxing matches. Check for a September match in Primm. I think Gamboa is fighting again out there.

    UNLV alum Suge Knight getting arrested again and Money May getting his jewels stolen which makes for great news in Vegas.
     
  5. smoochp

    smoochp Da flyest1 Full Member

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    Yep and Jay-z 40/40 getting shut down and two planes coming from the Rancho at the airport crashing into homes in less than a week
     
  6. saul_ir34

    saul_ir34 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Both guys have had brain problems before.
    I believe MAB has a metal plate in his head and Valero we all know has some health issues with his head.
    HMMMM... maybe not the safest fight to be promoting?
     
  7. Sting

    Sting Akagami no Shanks Full Member

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    :| :twisted:

    This guys seems to forget that when Pac fought those "over the hill" fighters they were THE BEST in the division(Barrera wasn't even over the hill when they fought the 1st time). And the last part is complete speculation. Accusing Pac of thinking JMM was old? Haha prove it hater.
     
  8. dhenzrae

    dhenzrae A Proud Noypi Full Member

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    i think barrera has still something to take away valero's "0"
     
  9. JM22

    JM22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Agree but i think MAB will win.:yep
     
  10. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    double standards

    Guzman is already older then MAB, Morales and JMM were when Pac first fought them, yet you put him in your list as a "young lion in his prime"

    Guzman is a young lion at 32 but JMM was not at 31. :patsch
     
  11. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    LOL...you clown! PAC faught and beat MAB twice, yet you say MAB is the one with more heart? PAC faught JMM long before MAB ever dared to test his skills with a equally matched foe in Juan, yet you claim MAB has that much more heart. Your logic escapes not only everyone on gods green earth but you included.:lol:
     
  12. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sure he has.....MAB when he beat him the 1st time was prime! Maybe physically a bit past it, but his EXPERIENCE Level and pedigree was the "Creme de la creme" and PAC dominated.....he also dominated MABs countrymen....all of them who stepped up.

    Some prime some a bit past it but you dismiss MAB, EM and JMM so easily now only b/c they got beat.:-( At the time EVERYONE and they mommas were saying :pAC's gonna loose" even in the 2nd MAB fight and the 3rd EM fight. Keep hating hater.....it's what you are good at, but don't try and act like you know boxing. That fact is clear as day and you only solidify that fact by posting garbage.
     
  13. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    yeah MAB's "experience level" was high for that fight, because he had already had more of a career the first time he fought Pac than most fighters EVER have. Maybe next Pac could fight JCC and beat ANOTHER mexican legend! After all, JCC is a super experienced fighter RIGHT NOW!

    As for Guzman, Charlievint, he hasn't had the wars that the HOF guys have had and he still has plenty left in the tank, which is the reason why his name will never pass Manny's lips. Neither has JMM, and I don't discount him. I think he won 20 out of the 24 rounds he fought with Pac, and it's bull**** he doesn't have two wins against him.
     
  14. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Two very respectable fights against young dangerous fighters in their prime. It will never happen.
     
  15. mexican legend

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    If he is in shape he can. :good