Barrera's top 5 Mexican fighters of all time.

Canto is not rated as high by alot of Mexican fight fans as compare to other Non Mexican fans. Doesnt surprise me that Barrera doesnt rate him in the top 5, in fact he barely cracks my top 10 mexican fighters list. Many Mexicans have Sanchez a close second to Chavez. In fact many including myself think he was probably better than Chavez but his resume isnt as long since he died so young. Im surprised Lopez isnt on his list. Id like to see Chavez list i know he has a very high opinion of Lopez and has said that he is glad they were not in the same weight class.

 

I think age has a lot to do with things sometimes, when you are from the country in question lots of fans, tend to lean towards the favourites/best of their era.Ie...lots of younger Ricans rating Tito over Ortiz/Brits having Benn, calzaghe or hatton over someone like Buchanan etc..


MOst of the same fans that don't rate Canto, i bet wouldn't care much about Ricardo Lopez either if he had fought inthe 60s/70s espeically as he likely wouldn't have had the same longevity or unblemished record, plus maybe having little footage avialable.The little guys hardly ever get their due.

 

Yey but Ricardo Lopez is pretty well respected By Mexican Fans, more so than Canto. He could punch too which is very important to many Mexican fans.

 

Ive seen this before, I would have Chavez at no1 & it would be nice to think MAB put EM in there because he rates him that highly but what he might be trying to get across without saying it is `if Morales is top 5 then I should be top 4 because I beat him 2-1 but I cant put myself on the list`

In reality, I think its a bit of both.... despite the bad blood, I do think Barrera rates & respects Morales as a fighter, you only have to look at their 1st fight to know this MUST be true - both ways.

 

Addie, stop, your killing me here.

If you believe that Barrera didnt hate Morales just because he acts the nice guy in public then I think you are far more blinded by your love for MAB than I ever was for Morales - & according to most posters, that would be saying something.

Morales speaks how he feels on most subjects, Barrera acts the way he thinks a good sport should act until the heat of the moment, then his real character comes out.... dont get me wrong, Im not knocking him for having this mean streak - its needed in boxing to be successful - but he should just be honest.

Dont be fooled by his act just because he`s your fav fighter, he`s human like the rest of us & we all have both good & bad in us somewhere albeit on different levels.. eg. Ted Bundy & Jesus :good

 

MAB & Sal are both from Mexico City + Chavez says he wanted Morales to win the 2nd Barrera fight.... I think Marco idolised JCC at that point & likely shed tears in bed at night.

 

:rofl:rofl:rofl Like your imagination

 

What did you think of Jibaro Perez st Bantam, anarci?.He's a fighter i thought should have done more with his talent.He was a great combination puncher.From what i've heard he just wasn't dedicated after he won the title though, and his performances did drop off after his first handful of defences.

 

Well i thought very highly of him for awhile he was ranked by KO in the top 10pfp , he was on my list too. Had great range freakishly tall for a bantam at 5-11 had some big wins against very good fighters like Canizales,Vasquez and the best one was against Miguel Lora. In fact he beat all those guys convincingly, i remember he beat Lora on the Undercard of Chavez vs Ramirez, at a time when Lora was considered a pfp guy and possibly even a great fighter. I though he could fight good from the outside and very good on the inside too for a tall guy. He seemed to slip alittle after moving up to JF and by the time he fought Chicanito he didnt impress at all anymore he was past it by then.

 

i personally believe that sanchez, chavez, lopez have to be in a mexican top 5. as for the others i need to see more for an educated list.i firmly believe that barrera has an outrageous ego and by putting morales on the list he is really saluting himself. that is unexcusable, he is a great fighter and that is a pathetic cry for attention. if true i view the character of marco in a different light. still great fighter, he is just after the top 3 or 5 mexicans.

 

Actually i got Barrera around 5 or 6 id put him above Saldivar who he happedns to have above Barrera.
My list would look like this.
Chavez
Sanchez
Olivares-Lopez
Barrera
Morales
Zarate
Saldivar-Marquez
Canto
Arizmendi

I forgot about Marquez who is underrated in my opinion

 

I remember Marco calling Morales a " Tijuana Chuntarro" which pretty much translates to a Peasant Indian from lower level economics to put it nicely. Actually Chuntarro is more of an insult,in spanish it always comes out worst. They went back and forth a few times trading insults throughout their rivalry.

 

They actually dont like that much each other, i posted a long time ago here in esb the situation in boxing here in mexico, there are 2 groups divided...if you want me to search my post and post it here again just let me know...

 

He called him an Indian (supposedly a racist thing in Mexico), waved him away after the decision in the 1st fight when Morales went over to congratulate him & thru bitterness, said afterwards that Morales `wasnt that good`

I would say that each one of those 3 things is enough to start some sort of grudge.

Dont forget the 2 1/2 years of crying about how the judges wronged him, completely taking the shine of Morales greatest victory.

Oh yes, this **** wasnt one sided, not by a long way... its just that Morales told how it was when asked.