Barry McGuigan - I've had enough of you.

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  1. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    Yes we know what would have happened and frankly McGuigan's handlers the Eastwoods knew. Anyone who even thinks the outcome is debatable is deluded. Nelson destroyed much better than McGiggle. Nelson is q great and legendary your hero Barry is not.
     
  2. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    By the way I am not calling you idiotic. I would not do that. It is the comments that I take serious issue with not you personally. As you can probably tell I have serious views on this issue about Barry McGuigan because his antics prevented what should have been career defining for both men.
     
  3. Strongback

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    Wee Barry's a sales man..............he always was.

    He was bought in a smuggling town where wheelin and dealin was the name of the game. He has never forgotten that.


    The cutting people off thing is annoying. Makes him look arrogant when I don't think he is.

    He's a great talker and the long radio interviews he has done down through the years are a pleasure to listen to.



    I don't think Azumah needed McGuigan to cement his legacy. Can't ever have seen Barry winning that fight.
     
  4. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    Thankfully Azumah was able to meet and defeat better legendary fighters like Jeff Fenech, Mario Azabzche Martinez and the great Gomez to establish his legend and legacy.
     
  5. Strike

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    You are totally misreading his posts. He is not saying McGuigan would have won, he is saying that AT THE TIME people did not know how good Nelson was and that McGuigan would have felt confident of winning and that many would have had him as favourite.

    When Clay stepped in with Liston for the first time, Liston was the huge favourite and most people thought he would destroy Clay. It turned out to be wrong.

    Hindsight is different to what people feel at a given moment. All he is saying is that McGuigan would have felt he would win and that at that time Nelson was not feared in the way that he would go on to be.
     
  6. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    Of course Nelson was feared back then ever since his performance as a last mnute substitute against the great Sanchez (may his perfect soul rest in peace). Nelson has honoured Sanchez's career and legend by going on to have the career he did. McGuigan and his handlers were not confident at all. Micky Duff a great friend of McGuigan's manager Barney Eastwood was in Azumah Nelson's corner for the Sanchez fight and pretty sure he advised Barney that Barry be kept away from Nelson. Barney Eastwood was also ringside when Azumah defended his WBC title against that fine Irish boxer Pat Cowdell and what he saw made up his mind when Nelson knocked Pat Cowdell unconscious with a left uppercut I in the 1st round. Only those not in the know could conceive of McGuigan winning. A friend of mine having neve seen Nelson in 1985 though surely McGuigan would win until he saw a fight of Nelson and said that Barry's style was made to order for Nelson.
     
  7. pathmanc1986

    pathmanc1986 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The irony of someone calling someone else an idiot when he claimed to manage a fighter he didnt have anything to do with...
     
  8. Gazza

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    The guy drains the life out of me, and the Flintoff thing has just topped it off its a joke
     
  9. Strike

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    Why are you posting this to me? I was not telling you that Nelson was not as feared as he would become to be, I was telling you what the other lad was saying so you would stop addressing his posts as if he was saying McGuigan would have beaten Nelson.

    You are arguing with points that nobody has made.
     
  10. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    I am agreeing with your points actually apart from one which is I don't believe McGuigan and his handlers thought he cold win back then because though the general public may not have known how good Nelson was the McGuigan certainly did. It gets on my tits when Barry says things like a particular fighter lacks intestinal fortitude etc when he sidestepped his career defining challenge. By contrast Marquez and Pacman fought each other four times to get a definite winner. Ricky Hatton is appreciated for not ducking Mayweather and Pacman. He may have lost but gained eternal respect.
     
  11. BlackBrenny

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    Barney Eastwood said he kept McGuigan away because Nelson would have killed him, I don't know many people around here who gave McGuigan much if any kind of a shot.

    Michael, I suggest you read Eastwoods book, THAT is an eye opener

    as for this "bringing people together" stuff...well i've said my piece on that myth more times than enough
     
  12. Strike

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    I didn't say he did, I said that, that is what ardy was saying to you.
     
  13. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    I could not agree more. I remember Barney Eastwood after watching Azumah Nelson brutally KO Pat Cowdell say that McGuigan did not need Azumah Nelson.
     
  14. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    I don't really need to answer you but will let you know that I did in fact fact represent the aforementioned fighter and was part of his management until I had to withdraw due to my other business committments. Whether you believe it or not I really don't care.
     
  15. Strongback

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    I'd take everything Barney Eastwood says with a pinch of salt.